I always assumed shin had it. He was the first to reach con 8. If I'm right. (I saw the winter bringer on one of his commanders).
I was actually rather late at con 8, wanted blood 9 first. (Claws and Blood vengeance, I actually reached that con level just as you were invading me
).
And if the lands are dead and devoid of life even a blood nation is dead
. Unrest also kinda sucks.
What makes the suffering even worse. I had loads of fire resist stuff just laying around in the lab. And you hit the prov which had the weakest mages... And no troops to soak up the random attacks.
Ah well
. Enough items laying around. But it still hurt a lot.