[Growltigga]

Freedom of speech is not freedom of speech unless it extends to those things which you find objectionable

No, you are worng here and I have somewhere here in my office that Californian lawsuit judgement that went into this - I shall get my secretary to find it and post it. Freedom of Speech does not give you free rein to talk about whatever you want. It gives you the right to air certain views, but not where those views are illegal

Talking about something is not the same thing as doing it. Child pornography is NOT freedom of speech, because to get it you have to break the laws of man, and take away the childs basic human rights.

I agree, talking about something is not the same as doing it but that is an incredibly simplistic viewpoint... talking about genocide in the way this web site goes into it is incitement at the very least, and would break several EU and UK moralioty principals to boot.... I can talk about

Talking about child pronography is not illegal, I can talk about it now and I am not being illegal... if I talk about it with the same phraseology these peope use to discuss genocide, then I AM inciting it, and 'advancing' it, and that, even under US law is illegal.. The line is too fine to start using fredom of speech as a defence

You should not have had to be called on the carpet by Baron about this .

What carpet are you talking about?.... the fundamental difference between that website and my sig is proportionality. They are advocating a real problem, genocide, it was happening 2 years ago in Bosnia, it is still happening in Iraq and, if rumours are true, all over Africa

I am talking about taking bets on 20 linedancers doh-see-dohing in a minefield.. How likely is that? I would like to see you make any charge of incitement stick on that!!

I have a stringent belief system. I would not jest about real issues. I view child pornography and genocide as real-life issues. I do not see my hypothetical premis of taking bets on line dancers dancing in a minefield as being likely

[ July 15, 2002, 16:34: Message edited by: Growltigga ]