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Old July 22nd, 2011, 12:37 PM

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This is stupid! I did not even cancel the NAP so far that is between Utgard and Abysia. So at this time the NAP is still there.
Informing me that you are not going to honor the terms of our NAP is the same as cancelling it.

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In my eyes Utgard is the true agressor here. He attacked C'tis without warning.
The whole point of a NAP-X is to insure the attacked nation gets at least X turns warning before combat starts. C'tis refused to sign a NAP-3 with Utgard. When a larger nation on my border reserves the right to attack me without warning, I consider that to be an aggressive act and since C'tis and Utgard had no NAP treaty, I had no obligation to warn him before attacking.

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You have been informed by the Nation of C'tis that there is a defence pact between C'tis and Abysia. This pact was signed long before the NAP between us. And you attacked C'tis knowingly after this information was given to you.
When we made the non-aggression pact, you agreed not to attack Utgard and in exchange I agreed not to attack Abysia. Utgard has kept it's side of the bargain. Peace with C'tis was not part of the NAP. You can not unilaterally add obligations on my part.

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BTW i did not even get a PM as a reaction on my PM. Utgard is going right to the world news.
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Originally Posted by Herbiedu View Post
Utgard wrote me:
"Since C'tis refused to sign a NAP with Utgard I am moving to secure my borders. C'tis claims you will weigh in on his side of the conflict due to a defense pact between the two of you.

Are you going to honor your NAP with Utgard?"
You neglected to include the last part of the PM where I said...

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If you are uncertain whether a NAP or a defense pact should take precedent, I suggest you ask in the forum. Either the game thread or the general forum would be fine.
I was willing to assume an innocent mistake when you made mutually exclusive treaties and suggested you get advice from neutral parties, instead you simply discarded the NAP with Utgard in favor of your defense pact with C'tis.

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