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Default Re: Fixes for the iraqi OOB

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Originally Posted by Marcello View Post
Units 346-571: SU-100M
1)FC reduced to 3 and Stabiliser to zero
2)Weapon n. 56 in slot 2 replaced by weapon n. 54 12.7 DShK AAMG
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Rationalization of assault guns
Unit 346-347-348-349 SU-100M, JSU-122 and JSU-152 could be reclassed as class 39 SP Gun
It's right to remove KPVT from SU-100, but has anybody seen a photo of SU-100 (especially in Iraqi service) with any AAMG?...

JSU should be changed to correct ISU.

Some other thoughts:

025 T-62 - according to Zaloga's New Vanguard 158 on T-62, Iraq received them in 1973 (now: 1/72).

049 Vickers Mk.6b - current armament is of Mk.VIc variant (by the way, Roman numerals were only used). Mk.VIb was armed with 0.5 in Vickers TMG (a bit worse, than 0.5 Browning) and 0.303 Vickers CMG (eg. #73 Vickers CMG from EGY OOB). I don't know which version Iraq used, but Mk.VIb was more common and is pictured.

052 SPG-9 - correct pic is 11117

053 B-10 PH Team - correct pic is 29215

061 BTR-50PK - just for a sake of completeness: it could carry up to 20 soldiers. It might cause problems of loading two sections into one APC (which might be true, btw), but #62 OT-62 has carry=118, so both can be the same.

065, 072 BRM-1 - If it's meant to be real Russian recce BRM-1K, then it needs modification, because now it's just BMP-1 with reduced armament. BRM-1K had a laser RF, ground radar and 2 SD, proper pic 11488 (only unit 72 has GSR). According to Russian sources (Bronekollektsya and others), it had 20 rounds for a gun only. Crew should be 4 + only 2 scouts, not 3+109 (might be 3+3, then we could create a formation with BRM carrying scouts - same for BRDM and other scout vehicles).

066 etc BMP-1 - standard load according to all Russian sources was 4 Malutka missiles, which concerns all countries. There was a theoretical possibility of carrying the 5th missile always on a launcher, what probably suggests Western sources that it could take 5 missiles, but a normative load in a vehicle were 4 missiles. As my friend from mechanized infantry said: "theoretically you could also fill a combat compartment with 20 missiles, taken from other IFV's".

102 7.62mm MMG Sec - proper pic for PKS MMG is 45377, same for #308

104 12.7mm HMG Sec - proper pic for NSV is 11096, same for #310

111 Mi-6A - correct pic is 11177 (now its Mi-26)

281 BA-64 - actually, it had AAMG (open turret, high elevation). But were they really exported to Iraq? I couldn't find confirmation in Russian sources (mentioning Yugoslavia, Korea and China). Production ceased in 1946, so it would be hard to find working machines in 1959.

288 BRDM-2 - if we make it class:scout vehicle, than it's worth to use them in formations carrying scouts (now: armoured car)

291 Al-Walid - correct pic is 7504

294 FUG-70 - if it's meant to be Hungarian PSzH-IV, judging from armament (I don't know if Iraq used them), then proper pic is 23484 or 23039

301 BRDM-2b (unused) - it could be changed to interesting Iraqi modification with 23 mm gun, used in 80s.

316 OT-64C SKOT - was there really such Iraqi variant of Skot with Malutka missiles? There were known photos of such Polish vehicles, but missiles were only mock-ups, and they didn't became operational.

325 Light Truck - class: utility vehicle. Should this generic vehicle be A/T wheel, if we have A/T Jeep, Land Rover, GAZ and UAZ in the same class?

330, 331 TO-54, TO-55 - it needs confirmation, if Iraq used flame tanks. Russian sources don't mention, that they were ever exported, while numbers of built tanks weren't big. It's doubtful IMO.

336 GAZ-66 - class: light truck. If we have a light truck named specifically GAZ-66, it should be A/T wheel?..

535 BMD-1 - Russian sources all say it carries 3 Malutka missiles, not 4. It could carry only 5 troops (+2 crew) - same for Russian.

Possible addition:
MT-LB /2B9 mortar - like Soviet unit #591 MT-LB Vasilek. Used in 1991 (seen on photos).

Michal
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