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Default Re: Polish OOB 5.5

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003 T-54B - there's no sign, that T-54B was used in Poland. Especially it isn't mentioned in the quoted book nor articles on Polish post-war armoured units and AFV development. Basic tank, produced since 1958 in Poland was T-54A, then replaced with T-55. It is doubtful, than some insignificant and unnoticed number of T-54B was bought abroad instead of buying a licence to production. To be removed IMO.

004 TO-54, 007 TO-55, 021 TO-34 - should be removed with corresponding formation 11. Poland never had flame tanks (TO-54 and TO-55 were non-numerous variants BTW).

005 T-55A (64-73) - produced and used from 1968 only (now 1/64, which is correct for basic T-55) [Poligon 3/2010]. Soviet T-55A has FC=7 (now:5). CMG should be #64 PKT.

Heat ammo was never such numerous in Soviet tanks, at least early ones (now: 15 HE, 15 AP, 13 Heat). I suggest 20 HE, 15 AP, 8 Heat as closer to truth.
(In fact, according to Tekhnika i vooruzhenie 9/2008, Soviet standard load for T-55 was 22 HE, 15 AP and 6 Heat, but this is tank-heavy game... You decide)

006 T-55AM Merida (86-94) - Fire control is much underrated (15) - Soviet T-55AM with Volna FCS and T-72A have 20, Czech T-55AM with Kladivo FCS has 25. Polish Merida FCS was more advanced, than Volna and T-72M1's system, and not worse than Kladivo. It had among others digital computer, wind and temperature sensor, adjustments for pressure, barrel wear, propellant temperature etc. I think that it should have also double number of SD/VIRSS - it has 16 tubes in all (now: SD 1, VIRSS 1). Speed was reportedly lower due to weight - some 16 (18).

008 T-55AM Merida (Obs. tank, 95-102) - as 006

012 T-54A (56-67) - vision should be 10, like in Soviet tank (now: 20) - basic version had no night vision devices, maybe only for a driver. FC in Soviet OOB is only 3 (5) (though I don't insist it should be lowered to such small value

There should be no Heat - spinless 3BK5 was introduced in the USSR only in 1961 (I suspect, that in Poland a couple years later), and there was no earlier Heat round for D-10 gun mentioned in Russian sources. In Tekhnika i Vooruzhenie 10/2008 monograph on T-54 there is ammo for T-54A quoted: 20 HE, 14 AP.

The article in Poligon 3/2010 implies, that T-54A was used from 1957 only (now 1/56), but there is no explicit statement. Personally I'd change it - seems, that they were used in divisions only from 1957.

014 T-54AM (68-73) - it's better to change to AM1 modification, with increased ammo load (AM was just a modification of A with additional fuel tanks, AM1 had further improvements, like rotating turret floor, increased ammo load, modernized drive, deep wading kit, etc - period from 68 is OK) [Poligon 5/2010].
They don't explain "increased" ammo load regarding this variant, but it should be most probably 43 rounds, like T-55 produced at the same time (I suggest 22 HE, 15 AP, 6 Heat).
There is no mention, if this modification received night vision gear - probably not yet. FC should probably be the same as T-54A.

028 T-55U (74-81) - it was T-54A modernized to T-55A standard - ammo load should be 43 (now 34). I suggest 20 HE, 15 AP, 8 Heat (now: 16,9,9). CMG could be still #62 SGMT, if it worked well... (there's no info in available sources)

(In fact, there aren't known any peculiar game-relevant differences between T-55A, T-55U, T-55M - all were in the same standard, differing in details and lack of anti-radiation lining on T-55U. Available sources don't tell however, if sights were changed.)

211 T-55M (82-85) - modernized T-55. I suggest 19 HE 9 Heat (now: 15/13).

651 T-55AM Merida (Obs.tank, 95-102) - there seems no difference from unit 008 - redundant?

654 T-55U (Obs. tank, 82-92) - ammo load should be 43 (now 34) (I suggest add 4 HE and 3 AP). CMG could be still #62 SGMT.

656 T-55M (Obs.tank 86-99) - I suggest 19 HE 9 Heat (now: 15/13)

714 T-55 (58-73) - produced in Poland from 1964 only [Poligon 3/2010] (now 1/58 - BTW, this date would be impossible, since T-55 in Soviet OOB appears in 1/58, and in fact commissioned in 5/58).
Basic model T-55 had no AAMG (confirmed by photos), but still retained SGMT BMG.

717 T-55M (74-81) - I suggest 19 HE 9 Heat (now: 15/13)

720, 721 T-54 (55-60, 58-68) - I've found information, that in 1955 there was bought only 1 T-54 as a pilot model [Militaria i Fakty 2/2003]. There's no sign of using greater number, especially in quoted articles on Polish post-war armoured units and AFV development. There's also no mention on T-54 being a subject of subsequent modernization, like T-54A/AM. To be removed IMO.


Special variants:


210 T-55/BTU Dozer - T-55 were used from 1964 only (now: 1/60-12/61). Maybe it should be changed to T-54A, and made available until early 70s (then ammo load 34, DShK AAMG, vision=10, stabilizer=1, FC=3?).

217 T-54A PT-54 - stabilizer should be 1 (0), FC 3 (2), and ammo load 34 (20 HE, 14 AP) (now 43). Road speed with PT-54 heavy roller was in fact only 30 km/h [Tekhnika i Vooruzhenie 10/2008]
Probably used from 1/57 (now: 1/56) - see #012.

218 T-55A KMT-5 - since this tank is HE-oriented, better ammo distribution is regulation Soviet: 22 HE, 15 AP, 6 HEAT (now 30 HE, 13 Heat). Or is there a rule, that mine rollers should have HE and Heat only?.. Speed with KMT-5 roller should be below 40 km/h.

219 T-55AM2P KMT-6 - Polish designation was T-55AM, but it might be renamed AMS - engineer's dedicated variant with mine plough (and MCLC). FC - like 006 Merida. Part of Heat rounds should be replaced with AP or Sabot. CMG should be #64 PKT.

225 T-55/BTU Dozer - T-55 were used from 1964 only (now: 1/62-12/67). Basic variant had no AAMG. Part of Heat rounds should be replaced with AP (now: 10).

226 T-55A USCz-55 - most of Heat rounds should be replaced with AP (now: 16!). CMG should be #64 PKT.

227 T-55AMS USCz-55 - FC - like 006 Merida. Part of Heat rounds should be replaced with AP or Sabot.

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Michal
I'm hoping Blazej will show up to defend his OOB
I'm not going to attack this OOB, only to improve (and correct it)

Michal
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