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Old February 2nd, 2012, 05:34 AM

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Default Re: Conceptual Balance Mod v1.92

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How would you go about giving Zmeys fire shield?
Umm, I have one in a test CBM 1.92 game right now with F1, although, I admit, I'm not sure what the chance is.
That's quite lucky as they only have a 10% chance of getting fire magic. I've tangled with them a fair amount and I don't think I've come across one with F1.

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Generally speaking, I think unique summons that are available to all nations should be better than the non-unique options as a reward for getting them.
I absolutely agree 100%; the Eroyals and Archdevils should not compare badly to stuff added by a mod that is across the board easier to summon.

The unique stuff should be the baseline, not tarts, if tarts are still too strong address them, not everything else...
Well, I think you have to balance the EDM summons against tarts because they fill the same category: non-unique summons available to all nations. If they aren't competitive with tarts then you'll end up with the same old "must get Chalice/GoH in order to spam tarts" mentality. So, I'd say balance those summons against each other (and make non-unique national summons competitive as well) and then look at making the unique summons special. I think you have a bit more leeway with unique summons because even if they become a bit over the top their numbers are limited so it's unlikely to throw balance off.


On a different topic, I've been thinking about some of the magic items that have been made unique. Some are very good as unique items (dwarven hammer is the one that comes to mind), others not really. In a current game I finally got around to forging the unique SDR, more out of pity than anything else. I guess maybe if you reached Constr. 8 and your only blood access was from something like a lamia queen it could be useful at that point but other than that... So what about giving it boosts along the lines of what was done with owl quills? The drawback is that thematically you'd really be forging them for the secondary ability rather than the primary but I think it's worthwhile in order to make them useful as a unique item.
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