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Old February 26th, 2012, 03:35 PM

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Default Re: Polish OOB 5.5

230 Ammo truck - icon of early ammo truck should be eg. 3026, with long nose.

540 76.2mm obr27 IG - not used in Poland. It should be 76.2mm AP-43 IG in fact (Soviet obr.1943). Picture: 29438. Withdrawn by 1954 (now: 12/49)

Weapon 236 should be changed to AP-43 or M.43 gun - range 4200 m only.

542 Komsolets - never used in Poland - should be changed to Ja-12 tractor

Specifications would be similar, but speed up to 38 km/h, picture - 29395, some trucklike icon, used 1946 - mid-1960s.

It's worth to add also tractors:
- Polish built Mazur D-350 - specifications similar, speed up to 53 km/h, picture - 29390, some trucklike icon, used 1961 - mid-80s?
- ATS-59 - unit 342 from Finland's OOB (though it's worth to find other icon with truck long nose), used from 1965?-120.

543 Truck - better picture is 29170 Ural truck - 4x2 trucks like 11067 weren't used in Poland, especially as artillery tractors. Better icon, with long nose, is 3026,

550 SU-57 - correct picture is 29041 (current one is Israeli improvised vehicle). There were few vehicles left after the war (probably 5), and most probably, as SP-guns they were used no longer, than some 1948, especially, that they fired not typical American ammo. Magnuski wrote, that "some" vehicles were converted to ordinary halftrack APC (used by internal security forces), but I think, that considering their small number and ammo issue, all were converted, or at least they weren't operational as SP-guns.

551 85mm AT-Gun - standard weapon of gunners in that period was AKMS rifle (#29), not SMG.

553 BRDM-2 Konkurs - in fact, there shouldn't be difference from unit 34. They differ in radio, but both are equally rare. See comments for unit 34. If we keep unit 34 only, it should be available until 120.

554 85mm AT-Gun+ - crew's weapon as 551. Maybe better name would be "85mm AT-Gun (N)" (N for night) - the gun with night sights was designated D-44N.

Night vision for 85mm gun was introduced in mid-60s (now it's 1/70) - maybe there should be created such earlier unit, with weapon like unit #82.

562 SA-4 Ganef - was to be withdrawn in 6/111 (now 12/120) [Raport 05/2011]. Proper name is 2K11 Krug

564, 569 SA-3 Neva SC - should be S-125 Newa-SC (Polish modernization)

584 PILO Dzik - precisely, Dzik 2 (PILO abbreviation is not used commonly - it means Intervention Vehicle Lightly Armoured or something like this, Dzik means wild boar). Used from 8/105 at best (now 1/105) [nTW 7/2005]

586 Jenot - prototype only, with little chance to be produced.

590 Lockheed C-130K - there are used only C-130E, first delivered in 3/09 (now 1/03) (plans to buy C-130K were abandoned) [nTW 4/09]

591 CASA 295 - precisely CASA C-295M. First delivered in 8/03 (now 1/03). It can carry 73 passengers, BUT only 46 paratroops (now carry=178) [nTW 4/09]

608 Osa AMRAAM - science-fiction as for now

609 SA-8 Osa Sting, 610 SA-8 Osa-AKM - in fact, both should be the same, but I don't know which data is closer to truth - maybe radar 110. Correct name is Osa-AKM-P1 (aka Zadlo, export name Sting). Starting date 1/105 is better. It also received laser RF (I don't know if there's a use in SP-SAM, but it has RF 8 now).

611 Loara SP-SAM - in plans only, with slight chance even to reach prototype stage.

612 Poprad - starting date should be mid-2011 (1/105). New chassis Zubr-P is lightly armoured (survivability will be more than 1) - see photo http://www.magnum-x.pl/index.php?opt...id=4&Itemid=12
It has laser RF and some FC system. It should use final version of Grom missiles (see comments for 205 Grom team). Speed is sure more, than 20, but I found no specific data (some 80-90 km/h at least).

613 Irbis-Poprad - abandoned. I don't recall even a prototype. All Poprads will be lightly armoured (see above)

Michal
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