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Originally Posted by rdonj
Yeah, temperature hurts, but it's still the first thing I dump... sloth is hardly unpickable now, it's still easier to take than losing order is in many cases. You just are going to think hard before going sloth 3 now. Having to think is the entire point.
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As per kianduatha's point earlier I think it may be more of an issue in the opposite direction - turmoil/production/luck to get the benefits of luck but also have prod offset most of the income hit form turmoil (and the bonus to resources is nice because you can ramp up your forces quickly when needed). Kianduatha also mentioned growth in that comment, but I think even without growth this should work out favorably.
It's not really a big deal to me and the changes have certainly altered my approach to designing pretenders but it would be worth assessing the effects. My gut instinct is that it might be best to have a three point difference between prod and order (whether it's 4 and 7 or 3 and 6).
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Originally Posted by Shangrila00
And no, I still disagree. Production should not be a dump stat, and neither should growth, which is the whole point of the CBM changes in the first place. Having resource cheap, yet effective units is an advantage, but it should not be worth hundreds of points, and neither should having good, non-old mages. Some nations, Mictlan, Ry'leh, etc still pick sloth 3 and are not even close to being underpowered.
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Well neither is Niefel and they get 120 free points from cold 3.
