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Old June 27th, 2012, 04:14 PM

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Default Re: YARG3, non newb MA+ENP2 RAND game. Executor's Ulm winner on turn 76

Rdonj, I took a quick look at the current Itza (just recruitables, didn't have time to check out the summons) and I agree it's much better. In addition to the magic weapon changes (which are very significant) I see the cold-blooded tag has been extended to the Kroxigor as well (and I'm not sure that I realized just how severe the cold-blooded penalties were when we played Tourmaline). At a glance I'd agree they certainly have plenty of strengths but are much more reasonable.

Interesting observations regarding mod nation power. I think Cal's comment re: picking the best units from various nations as comparisons without necessarily considering the cumulative effect of this (and not necessarily having offsetting weaknesses) is also a good point. And it occurs to me that probably most nation modders are looking to create a strong nation rather than an average, let alone weak, nation. For one thing, they'd like their nation to be played and more people will shy away from playing an underpowered nation than a strong one.

I also wonder if other mod nations are used as a baseline and if those nations are strong you want yours to be competitive with them? I guess this would apply more to the Warhammer nations since they have shared theme but could apply to historical-themed nations as well.

Btw, aside from wariness about power level I'm not at all against mod nations and am actually quite impressed with many of them from the sprite work, to the imaginative themes, to the technical approaches to accomplish things (retinues, etc.).

All this is a bit off-topic but not horribly so since YARG 3 did include mod nations. And I've actually been meaning to ask about this for a while so I'm glad it came up.


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Calahan isn't so subtle... he's all about manifesting that vitriol
Yep, I no do subtle. I was forced to for a few years of my life. Never again. Hated every moment of it and it certainly wasn't 'me' at all. Vitriol is a type of cake isn't it? Hhhhhmmmmmm, cake
Good point regarding sarcasm vs. vitriol. I probably put too much of my own personality in that post rather than staying in character.


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Lol, thanks for that Valerius, and it's duly been copied, pasted and saved for when I do one day sub for you.

Yuo know, I could get used to this 'players writing my rants in advance' thing. As it'll save me a load of time if nothing else. Maybe from now on I'll start stipulating that as a requirement for me subbing... "Hi I'll sub for you if you like. Can you please give me a brief run-down on what's happening, oh and of course the obligatory rant that I would write five minutes after checking the position out. Thanks."
Glad you enjoyed it. Though it occurred to me afterwards that I might have had better material to work with if I'd gone with my FoB "Blood Elves" build. What? You don't think it's practical to turn Eriu into a blood powerhouse? Just think, during the endgame you might up to a half dozen empowered Claws-casting Bean Sidhe!

Also, I wonder how many people's self-assessment would match your verdict.


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Also haven't forgotten about the PM's Val. Not had free Dom time for a while to get back to you properly (recently there seems to be a never ending flow of people who need ranting at which gets high priority for my free Dom time ).

Two weeks is the usual turn around though isn't it? so I still have some time to play with
No problem; given my rather relaxed responses to PMs I'm quite patient in return. And rants do need to be posted promptly - just doesn't have the same effect if you only post a few days later.
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