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Old July 14th, 2012, 04:30 AM

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Default Re: Polish and Bulgarian OOBs

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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH View Post
I don't know if this helps or not. The ZPS site is about useless as it doesn't provide any specs at all, except to show we make 120mm/125mm tank ammo and here are the types we make. What is clear is the 125mm round made from ~1991 to 2000 wasn't that great with a universally excepted penetration rate (On the net from all source types.) of 460mm @ 2km. In 2001 with changes made to both the penetrator and propellant casing the penetration rate was increased to 540mm @ 2km (Again from all source types.) though less than a handful indicated a range of penetration from 500mm to 560mm @ 2km. 540mm seems to be within the margin of error and preponderance of sites and pages gone through. There were "shadows" of information that improvements were ethier made (Within the last couple of years.) or are being made to improve the penetration of the 125mm rounds in the near future, "shadows" are just that and there is already way too much speculation going on around here already.
http://www.zps.com.pl/en/ammunition125mm.html
http://articles.janes.com/articles/J...nd-Poland.html
http://articles.janes.com/articles/J...on-Poland.html


I don't know if the JANES site provides any further insight (Current from May 2012.) to the Polish 125mm ammo issue or not, but it does seem to raise further questions (Or not.) on how effective Russian 125mm ammo was during the 80's to early 90's.

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Pat
Pat, this reply is no reflection upon you but just a supplement in the spirit of your reply to the unhappy campers in SPMBT world. AFAIC,if it ain't broke,don't fix it and please don't waste your time trying to placate those that don't appreciate what I consider to be the epitome of wargamming,and a free one at that.


AFAIC,this whole deal is a moot point. This wonderful battle simulator is suited for anyone to customise their tastes to play against the computer. Heck,I even have my own personal OBAT to play against the A-I( only the U.S 012),though the difference versus the recent 6.0 Obat ugprade to that military force only differs to the tune of maybe 0.05% overall,just based on my experience in the U.S. Army. Don and Andy spent many days and nights over the years trying to get the whole 9 yards as correct as possible. IMO they have succeeded way beyond what I thought possible 10 years ago. Nobody is perfect but IMO they are closer to it any anyone else in the gaming genre and once again,I like this sim just how it's being presented in 6.0. If you are unhappy,play against the A-1 with your own Obat(fill in the blanks as to how it should be). I believe in letting Jesse rob the the train however he wants to.

Other than my experiences as to observing with telescopes and my obligations as a moderator on a telescope forum,SPMBT has become a close 2nd as to gobbling up all of my spare time. This simulator is that important to me. Grand Prix Legends is a distant 3rd,and do I love that one as well.

My 2 cents.
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