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Old September 21st, 2013, 02:32 PM

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Default Re: Polish OOB2 corrections/suggestions (v.6)

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Originally Posted by zastava128 View Post
Wouldn't it be better that the Gwardia Ludowa be moved to spob09 Polish Communists/LWP?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Polish LWP basically "grow out" of the Gwardia Ludowa? If so, then I think the pre-1944 partisan forces are already in that OOB.
You are partly right - Gwardia Ludowa (later Armia Ludowa - People Guards/Army) were communist partisans, conceived in Moscow. In July 1944 it officially merged with the 1st Polish Army in the USSR, creating so-called LWP (Polish People Army - it wasn't an official name however, official was just Polish Army).
(A distinction may be unclear, but there are other words for army as a military unit - "armia", like the 1st Polish Army, and an army as armed forces - "wojsko", although "armia" is colloquially used also in the second meaning).

In my opinion, though, since GL/AL units operated in the country, there's no need to put them into a separate LWP OOB and treat as allies. The idea isn't bad, though.

By the way: a flag representing LWP, with a hammer and sickle, is a bit offensive, since it was never a sign of Polish communists, who used just a national flag. However, I have no better idea. Maybe there could be used Piast's eagle, used by the LWP on caps and badges, but a distinction may be hardly seen: http://histmag.org/grafika/articles6...ly5/kurica.png

On the other hand, ordinary Polish flag should have no eagle at all - a flag with eagle was used only as a merchant ensign and a flag of Polish official representatives abroad.

By the way: it could be noted, that despite both groups of partisan movement were unfriendly, and regarded themselves as communist renegades vs fascists, fights between them were sporadic.

Regards
Michal

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