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Old November 3rd, 2013, 11:41 AM

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Default Re: Finnish OOB35 Corrections and Suggestions PART 2 -- Units

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Originally Posted by Pibwl View Post
Continuing artillery:
- all names should be in fact in "H/37" format rather, than H 37.

- 91 152mm H 37 Bty - captured during a Continuation War, so 6/41 would be probably to early to start - maybe a month or two later.
In fact, they were used by heavy artillery battalions, so they might be classified as heavy arty

- 152, 158 76mm K36 FG - it should have icon with longer barrel and split trail, eg 57. I'm not sure, if class Infantry Howitzer is proper.

- 153 105mm H33 FG (leFH.18) - better icon is eg. 2105, with split trail (btw. German unit 132 should have the same icon - now it has way too long barrel). I'm not sure, if class Infantry Howitzer for this field howitzer is proper.
It might be available also as Light Off-map Bty, though we have more popular 105 H/37 with yet better performance. Date 5/44 seems OK.

- Unit 154 105mm K29 FG obviously wasn't Class 154 infantry howitzer, but a long-range canon, used from 10/40 (http://www.jaegerplatoon.net/ARTILLERY4.htm). A single gun should be replaced with a battery, presumably of class 10? (in fact it was used in heavy arty units)

- Unit 155 155mm How Bty - it seems, that it should be class 10 Off-map arty, not Off-map Heavy arty - it's ordinary H/17 (mle 17) Schneider howitzer (its name should be changed to H/17 in a pattern of other units). According to Jaeger Platoon, it was most numerous heavy howitzer in Finland. Correct picture should be 23075 or 30290.
Michal
It is true that by WW2 naming conventions type designator (H or K) should be followed by / (slash) and the year. However, towards modern times that was changed so that the slash was dropped and replaced by a space:

http://www.puolustusvoimat.fi/portal...8fce00c6621582

I am not sure when this change was officially implemented, but the core of the matter is that it's a very minor point of nomenclature.

As for the "heavy/light" artillery question: By Finnish standards light guns (< 100mm) and light howitzers (< 130mm) were divisional artillery and considered "light". Heavy guns (100-155mm) and heavy howitzers (130-155) mm were typically part of independent artillery units (Finnish army did not have organic artillery at corps or army level) and considered "heavy". Anything bigger than 155mm was super-heavy (järeä in Finnish) artillery regardless of type (gun, howitzer or siege mortar).

So, 155mm howitzers should definitely be in the heavy class, but in any case the different unit classes are there just to enable making reasonable formations for the players -- like Andy said earlier, they do not have to follow historical TO&E slavishly. This also applies to the Infantry Howitzer question, although I agree that anything with a significantly more the 10 km range probably should not be in that unit class (this applies to other OOBs as well).
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