1) There seems to be just a "
little" confusion about the armor protection tables I submitted from the
armorsite.com website concerning the ABRAMS and later in
Post #227 for the LEOPARD 2A4/5&6, T-80UM and T-90/90S. The tables for the ABRAMS and LEOPARDS
only take into consideration STEEL armor (RHAe) it
does not consider any added composite armor applications i.e. DU for the ABRAMS. I have found
general parity between the ABRAMS and LEOPARDS is RHAe as those tanks have developed (And I'm not surprised by this.). Please read the note within the box under those RHAe values as they clearly support my above comments.
2) Concerning the SOVIET/RUSSIAN tanks, they
do include in the tables
both RHAe and ERA (In those cases
KONTAKT-5.) to make up the total armor protection values. Note: Russia has moved from KONTAKT-5 (Though still in heavy use.) to RELICT-9.
3) The ARMATA/or T-14 has something newer in ERA as yet undisclosed
officially by name.
http://www.janes.com/article/52464/r...as-new-gen-era
4) This issue that concerns Don to some degree will in some cases some of the Soviet era and current Russian tanks might be "over protected" I do know one thing is for sure neither side of this discussion will be pandered too and a fair and honest review will be done for again both sides of this issue. I think after a cursory review some Russian tanks might benefit due to the ERA in the area of protection against HEAT (Chemical.) rounds.
5) As I've pointed out with my use of the
defenseindustrydaily.com (DID) website and can be used as a single sourced site as they always list their sources at the bottom of the article. I don't know PRADO but, I like his work on the Armor Site because he does the same-lists all his refs at the bottom-
look at them-he's smart enough to use in country sources, though,
KMDB (Kharkiv Morozov Design Bureau (Designer of the T-34, T-64 series and other tanks.) it is now in the UKRAINE.
Ref 1 Main site.
http://morozovkmdb.com/eng/index.php
Ref. 2 is taken from the "Upgrade Packages for Vehicles..."
H1 refers to the frontal arc of the hull while
H2 covers the side of the tank notice in the below the increase in protection with the added ERA package they offer as part of their T-72 up grade program. Their upgrade program consists of the following T-72 mods they developed the
T-72AG, T-72MP and the T-72-120 NATO compliant version also offered below.
http://morozovkmdb.com/eng/body/t72m2.php
http://morozovkmdb.com/eng/body/t72-120.php
http://morozovkmdb.com/eng/body/kbm2.php
But now I digress somewhat, point being sometimes in the "hustle and bustle" (There's a song there.) of our lives we get in a hurry and not only miss things but miss out on things as well, I missed the above
KONTAKT-5 item myself until I went back to check on it again earlier. So this goes for me as well!?!
and
but since my work week is now over things will get better.
And here's the song, I just like it. Makes me thankful for a certain someone when I get home!
https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...t=mozilla&tt=b
Alright DON, I'll stop now! Good Night for me and well...good day to everyone else!!
Regards,
Pat