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Default Netherlands OOB28 v.9

Aircraft:

85, 116 Fokker C.V - apparently used until 5/40. It had only one forward-firing MG
(source: http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart= )

According to http://www.grebbeberg.nl/index.php?page=fokker-c-v it could also take "16 x 8 kg. of 4 x 25 kg. of 4 x 50 kg. bommen"

Same for KNIL unit 105, although the quoted page lacks info about their service there.

It's worth to add Fokker C.X since 1935 - a basic Dutch bomber in late 1930s. It was basically the same, but speed 317 km/h, bomb load 400 kg (8 x 50 kg or 4 x 100 kg)
http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.p...okker-c-x-c-10
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

From 11/35 they were also used by the KNIL.


90, 216 Fokker G.1A - should be just G.I - "The commonly used terms Fokker G-IA and Fokker G-IB are no authentic Fokker designations and in fact incorrect" - http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

According to the quoted page, they were put in service no earlier, than 7/39 (unit 216 starts at 1/37, before actual first flight). Also http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.php?page=fokker-g-1 says they were in service in "1939-1940"



91, 113 B-25h Mitchell, KNIL Mitchell
- there's no info, that the Dutch used 75mm-armed B-25H, but KNIL used B-25C strafers instead, armed with some 6-8 .50 MGs, from some mid-43 -
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

A proper photo of KNIL B-25 is 346.


93, 94, 218, 219 Fokker T-5 - it was rather known as T.V (https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_T.V).
Same for Fokker T.VIIIW no. 92,220

Edit: according to http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.p...t-v-bomber-t-5 only two aircraft could carry maximum payload 4 x 300 kg. The rest could only carry 2 x 300 kg, or 4 x 50 kg and 2 x 100 kg, or 8 x 50 kg.
Since it had a semi-automatic Solothurn 20 mm gun, and was initially conceived as a fighter-cruiser, maybe it should be also doubled as fighter-bomber?


95 B-25h Mitchell - the Dutch 320th RAF Sqdn in the UK used Mitchells already from around mid-43 (now 1/46). It should be renamed B-25C or D (a level bomber anyway).
There is an article with photos of both Dutch aircraft in the UK, and with postwar markings:
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

In fact, a wartime icon should be British 991.


101 KNIL Mitchell - it has an own photo 346, or there are others:http://www.marsethistoria.nl/artikel...N5-151_600.jpg
http://www.ozatwar.com/raaf/moth/p920742.jpg
http://www.ozatwar.com/raaf/moth/p920744.jpg
Maybe a better name would be KNIL B-25?

(BTW: I'm not suggesting to change an icon, but according to
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart= they were in plain Olive Drab, and had a flag on left wing only)

100 KNIL Martin 139 - first were used from 1/37 (now 6/39) - in 10/38 all were delivered
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=&limitstart=1

102 KNIL Catalina - delivered only in 9/41
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=&limitstart=1


103,104 KNIL A-20/Boston - it seems from this page
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=&limitstart=1 that their career in KNIL was brief and without combat use - all were given away in 6/42 (Mitchells entered service instead). The photo for unit 104 with Dutch markings seems a fake.

106 KNIL Hawk P-36 - its name was Hawk 75A-7.
According to
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=en&Itemid=546 armament was "one .50 inch and one .303 inch machine gun in the nose and two .303 inch machine guns in the wings; later changed to two .303 inch machine guns in the nose; bomb load of 2 x 50 lbs (23 kg)" (three bombs would be strange for a fighter anyway)

During February 1942 the remaining Hawks were withdrawn from operational use (quoted page).


107 KNIL Buffalo - it seems, that they weren't known as Buffalo, but Brewster B.339
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

109 KNIL Kittyhawk - first used operationally in 4/44(?)
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=&limitstart=1

110 KNIL Hurricane - delivered to East Indies only in 2/42 (now 9/41). The last Hurricane was captured by the Japanese in March 42 (now 6/42).
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=


217 Fokker D.XXI - entered service from 8/38 only
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

As AOP aircraft, from 1/45 Austers were used http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart= (the Kingfisher as Dutch AOP plane is doubtful, especially in Europe... before 1/45 maybe there should be British Austers?)

If we have Catalina bombers, an interesting addition would be Dornier Do 24K http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart= - they could carry up to 1500 kg bombs, and eg. bombed Davao in 12/41 with 500-pound bombs (notwithstanding, that probably none of the two flying boats ever supported troops in field).

Edit: a great addition would be Douglas 8A-3N assault bomber
http://www.waroverholland.nl/index.p...=douglas-8a-3n
http://kw.jonkerweb.net/index.php?op...=1&limitstart=

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