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Old February 6th, 2018, 12:49 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

This is probably more back up as anything as this point...

1. Turkey:
1. You had an issue with the LEOPARD-1T thinking it close to the CANDF C2 I think you were going to back off that. Recheck my hardcopy files of my Patch Submissions and the net to verify those notes were still viable. It seems they are so, the only upgrade it received was for the 3rd GEN ASELAN VOLKAN FCS.

The LEOPARD-1T was the operational test bed for the system which is meant for the ALTAY. You can think of the system as...
Level 1 - Test Bed units.
Level 2 - The 170 LEOPARD-1T upgrade completed NOV 2009.
Level 3 - ALTAY w/TI/GSR 50(?) which I'm also finding that the LEOPARD 2A4 tanks have it as well.

If you think about and remember these were bought solely for the LEOPARD-2T (Similar to the German LEO-NG.) project. This makes perfectly good sense to me, as it's a major upgrade the LEOPARD-2T will have and still feel have in limited numbers like the one German Battalion of the LEOPARD-2A7 that's fully operational. This is actually new info to me based on tonight's work concerning the LEOPARD-2A4.

VOLKAN FCS is a fully stabilized dual axis modern all-weather FCS. It can fire on the move with a high first hit probability, I should think a very easy 40 TI/GSR, LRF w/Battlefield Management System (BSM) integration, which in game terms I'll assume would be limited to the radio.

With the above LEOPARD-1T/LEOPARD-1A3T1/ALL M-60A1/A3/T/M-48A5TI/M-48A5T2 will be operational through 2025. This is due to the delays caused by the ALTAY which at this point is 3-4 years behind schedule and counting. The only one I'm not sure of is the M-48T5 that entered service in 1982 on whether it's still active.

Again only backup.

Now for some news and it ain't good...

Well Russia is at it again and I've said before, the ARMATA is going to late now maybe even later. You don't spend money on recapitalization of "older" equipment if your latest and greatest is say within 2 - 3 years or less of FOC+. BUT Russia HAS...

2. Russia The T-90M which is a slightly improved version of the Export T-90MS. The T-90M should be in the field by this Summer, my feeling is closer to OCT 2018 if no issues arise at the last minute. Here's what I have...
https://www.armyrecognition.com/febr...sian_army.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/russ...ata_sheet.html


3. Iraq: I don't know if this is an add or not-Strike That! Now an ADD, they just received their first T-90S tanks on 1 FEB. If we use the USA model for tank school I had posted about a year back, figure somewhere around 8 months until FOC+, so around OCT 2018. Should cover enough tanks to field a unit/op eval and training. Was thinking JAN 2019 however, they do have an extensive history in the use of Russian tanks. Let's call the "benefit of the doubt" which will more then likely bite me in the tail.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/febr...s_to_iraq.html

Ukraine: The other masters of upgrading existing tanks is also at it again. JANE's reporting they have now the T-72MP this should be a very competitive tank against the latest Russian counterpart versions. Apparently this tank has taken many of the elements they were going to put into the T-72/120 NATO version. Points not to miss in the article...

1. Who helped them with it.

2. Added 4 tons to the weight of the tank mostly in armor protection. That's about the weight I believe was added to make the Russian
T-72B3/B4.


3. JANE's estimate of the frontal turret armor equivalent.

I would expect this tank to at FOC+ by years end, however, we need more information on this tank before we take any action I feel.
http://www.janes.com/article/76473/k...w-t-72-upgrade

I wish the Russian would SLOW DOWN, I had already posted a couple of times about this situation arising. Those slots we got rid of (T-80 mods(?) I think it was) last year are going to fill right up.

Had a very busy but productive day, I think I'll see if I can find that "Hunting Hitler" episode I forgot to ask CINCLANTHOME to record for me.

Good Whatever wherever you are!!

Regards,
Pat
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