True. It also amazes me how both of these fine turn based tactical combat simulations have been underappreciated or even looked down upon (a very common excuse is having "old graphics") by many armchair colonels and grognards who are loyal to the wargaming tactical genre, whether those 'games' are turn based, RTS or mixed like the Combat Mission series. What i do know for sure is that 'eye candy' graphics do not win a fan base by itself.

