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Old February 22nd, 2019, 05:30 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

First off this is not here to piss anyone off. This is to finish what I started because that's what I do, in fixing the Russian T-90S export situation as posted in this Thread on Page #88/Post #879 from that post...

"India will need further investigation I don’t understand why the STEEL and HEAT numbers do not match the above. I believe the current numbers are incorrect for the T-90S for India."

UNGANDA/T-90S/UNIT 031/AS REVISED on Page #88/Post #879/THIS IS THE BASELINE T-90S MODEL//

SIPRI data supplied as reference points to support the timeframe of the below. These are from Russia to India. India also "kit" builds their own T-90S Series UNITS. India is the largest user of the T09S Series tanks.

FOR INDIA...

INDIA/CHANGE/T-90S BHISHMA/UNIT 036/START JUN 2002 vice JAN 2004/VISION 35 vice TI/GSR 40/NO EW INDIA DID NOT ORDER SHORTORA-1/CHANGE/FC**STABILSER**SURVIABILITY**STEEL**HEAT PER REVISED UGANDIAN UNIT 031 AS SUBMITTED (UNDERSTAND STEEL & HEAT DONE)//
SIPRI 310 T-90S Tank 2001 2001-2006 (310) $600-700 m deal (incl 55% advance payment); reaction on Pakistani acquisition of 320 T-80UB tanks; 186 assembled from kits in India

INDIA/CHANGE/T-90S+BHISHMA/UNIT 037/NO EW INDIA DID NOT ORDER SHORTORA-1/SURVIABILITY**STEEL**HEAT PER REVISED UGANDIAN UNIT 031 AS SUBMITTED (UNDERSTAND STEEL & HEAT DONE)//
These would represent the ones equipped with FRENCH THALES "CATHERINE" TI/GSR and supported FCS integration equipment.

INDIA/ADD/T-90M BHISHMA/COPY CURRENT INDIA T-90S+BHISHMA/UNIT037/START JUN 2010/ADD/EW SWEDDISH LEDS-150 APS 3 SHOTS/MG 125mm 2A46M-5 Rapira vice 125mm D81T 88/FC 45 vice 40/STABLISER 5 vice 4/ERA 16/16/0/16/16/0/16 KANCHAN ERA vice current 14 KONTAKT 5 ERA//All other current numbers for the "copied" UNIT 037 especially in the STEEL and HEAT areas are good as the armor package was improved for this version.
SIPRI 347 T-90S Tank 2007 2008-2012 (347) INR49 b ($1.2 b) deal; incl 223 assembled in India

INDIA/CHANGE/T-90MS/UNIT 039/NAME T-90MS BHISHMA II vice T-90MS/DATE CHANGE ALREADY SUBMITTED PER Page #88/Post #879//
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/mo...0S_Bhishma.php
http://tanknutdave.com/indian-t90-bhishma-tank/

INDIA/CHANGE/ARGUN Mk II & ARGUN Mk II+/UNITS 022 & 023/START JAN 2023 vice CURRENT//
I really don't think these will make it in the game at all in the "RW". I would say DELETE them, however, in India things "can change on a dime"

This completes the T-90S Series fixes. If these don't get in this year it's OK, AFTERALL this is INDIA we're talking about!?!

My mission is complete and my word is kept per the top para 2.

I just want to point out the whole ABRAMS, T-90S M109 SPA issues happened by accident. The valid USMC M1A1 FEP (Suhiir thank you!) was a valid issue that needed to be addressed.

However going back to the to the rest they started with valid issues as well the T-90S for VIETNAM I think it was and the M109A5/A5+ for BRAZIL.

We would find that in most cases, the issues stemmed from already game entered equipment errors from when Andy and Don "took over control" of the game, misidentified photos that were submitted which caused if you will "UNIT confusion and misinformation", equipment submitted based on Prototype and or Initial Low Rate production dates instead of FOC (In some cases I would've been THRILLED if they used IOC dates because they were that XXXXXX XX, i.e. M109A6 PALIDAN WAS OVER 10 YEARS EARLY) and not to Pontificate on the issue I will just end with plain laziness in not checking sources.

It's been a good year, it would've been more enjoyable and fruitful equipment wise if we didn't have so much rework to do.

I hope you all have a great weekend!!

For CINCLANTHOME and myself it'll be "Play Ball" on Spring Trng Opening Day!!

GOOD NIGHT where ever you are!!

Regards,
Pat
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