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Old October 20th, 2019, 02:22 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

Where to start?

I guess I'll tackle the T-14 ARMATA first. The good news thus far anyway, is that we should see this tank before games end. The bad news is Russia will be nowhere near the 2300 units it desired in a defense review I believe from the Summer of 2014. Planned production was to have run from 2015 - 2019. The ARMATA should have or is about to start the OPEVAL around this time. A total of 100 will be built.

One must remember and as I submitted for the last patch a date change for the M1A2 SEP3 (It's just easier to remember it that way at this time.) an article from the USA that reported that the MBT was 3.5 years into it's OPEVAL and still going on at this point (Earlier in the year (Winter?) as posted it was deployed to Europe for further testing and coordination of Ops with our and NATO units.

As I'm in the habit of pointing out at times it was more about money, developmental and other technical issues and finally the sanctions imposed on Russia after it invaded the Crimea in Ukraine.

I was going to recommend a date change to JAN 2022 but, I see Don has changed it to JUN 2021 which is a good date I feel for what it's worth. Concur with the same for the T-15 as well.

It will "posted" with "1st Guards Tank Regiment of 2nd Guards Tamanskaya Motor Rifle Division, garrisoned in Moscow and part of Russia’s Western Military District." That means home defense of MOSCOW.

The only issue I see and I'm putting in this thread vice the APC one for now, is because these refs. refer to it in the T-14 discussion. Serious consideration should be made for adding a T-15 with the 57mm MG. This looks to be how the main variant will be armed. I already posted on this I'm pretty sure in the APC Thread and as I indicated again, it's in these refs. as well.

I hope you'll take the time to click on the links within these articles as I have, for perspective and a better understanding of the "big picture".

I now remember the German website this editor/writer (The Diplomat) ran in my earlier days of posting this "stuff" and some might remember it as well, DefPro.com may it RIP.

I'll try to get these in date order...
https://thediplomat.com/2018/08/russ...n-battle-tank/
https://www.armyrecognition.com/augu...perations.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/febr...n_service.html
(The trials were delayed a year, until now as already noted.)
https://thediplomat.com/2019/01/russ...rials-in-2019/


What's going to be their most capable tank in the field? I first posted on this MBT late in 2017 or early in 2018 I believe, having first been spotted participating in a Russian exercise. The T-90M which I've been watching from the start. It is currently still in trials so a date change will be required.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/july...uisitions.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/russ...res_video.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/febr...sian_army.html
(From the ref. Dated FEB 2018, "According to the Russian Company Uralvagonzavod, the latest modernization of the main battle tank T-90, called T-90M will enter in service with the Russian army in the next few months.")
https://thediplomat.com/2019/03/russ...rials-in-2019/
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...ew-t-90m-tank/
(This last ref. from this past SEP. indicates the Russian Army did not receive it's first T-90M until JUN 2019.)
https://www.defenseworld.net/news/25...y#.Xav6qm5Fzoo
(This ref. SEP 2019 is saying they just got their first one in SEP.)


This is why I to love OOB work because "a good time will be had by all", if not, there will be consequences for all in involved. Fun is mandatory around here. All others "need not apply".
and of course !!!!!!

I recommend new START DATE: RUSSIA/T-90M/UNIT 059/START JUN 2020 vice OCT 2018.// This should get the job done, hopefully.

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Last edited by FASTBOAT TOUGH; October 20th, 2019 at 04:26 PM.. Reason: Reworded T-15 submission para w/57mm.
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