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Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH View Post
You'll see the 25mm version of the TYPE-09 if you scroll through the picture gallery from the same ref. I posted earlier and has since been noted. Or as I just checked the bottom 2 pictures on the right.

"This ZBL-09 has a crew of three and capacity to carry 7 to 10 troops."

http://www.military-today.com/apc/zbl_09.htm

The TYPE-08 which apparently proceeded the "09" by a year (2008) has what we might consider a "standard" looking 30mm Auto Cannon vice what looks like a "Gatling" type on the "09".
Fastboat, I went and looked at the pages using EDGE and got these two images:





The turret on these prototypes of the Type 08 is... the same as installed on:

ZBD-03 Airborne IFV



and

Type 86G IFV (Upgraded Type 86 BMP-1 with new turret)



The gun on both the ZBD-03 and Type 86G Turret is a 30mm cannon....but here's where your erroneous information began, courtesy of http://www.military-today.com

http://www.military-today.com/apc/zlc_2000.htm

The ZLC-2000 was an early prototype designation for the ZBD-03 (Type 03) Airborne IFV; and Military-Today.com says:

Vehicle is fitted with a one-man turret, armed with 25 mm cannon.

When if you go to ChinaDaily (which is a chinese source with the .cn designator), when in an afterthought in an article on the delivery of a new wheeled vehicle to the PLA Airborne Corps they said:

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/2020...241154e57.html

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Before the new asset, the only armored combat hardware in the PLA Air Force's paratroop units was the ZBD-03 airborne infantry fighting vehicle, which runs on tracks instead of wheels.

The 8-metric ton ZBD-03 is believed to have been in service for more than 10 years. It is armed with a 30-mm-caliber gun and a single missile rail launcher used to fire anti-tank missiles.

Observers said the Air Force is waiting for Norinco to provide the new generation of airborne tracked combat vehicle to replace the ZBD-03.
China Daily is an English-language daily newspaper owned by the Publicity Department of the Chinese Communist Party. You can't get more "official" than that.

And regarding the "Gatling-type" cannon; it's actually a single barrel autocannon contained within a barrel support structure.



You traditionally find these support structures on autocannon intended for anti-aircraft work, since they allow the barrel to be more rigid during rapid fire (and thus more accurate).

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This below is where the VN-1 is developed from the VP-10.
http://www.military-today.com/apc/vp10.htm
Your source says:

China's army uses a broadly similar ZBL-09 armored personnel carrier, which is proposed for export as the VN1.

Additionally it says that the VP10 was "first observed in 2014". The VN1 was first offered by NORINCO for export in 2008.

Some VP10 prototypes showed up in Chinese web forums being evaluated by the PLA back in 2016.

Currently it's a "idea vehicle" searching for a buyer; like so many things that show up at Defense Expos.
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