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Old February 8th, 2021, 05:59 PM
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Fallout Re: The FASTBOAT Patch page.

BOXERS-CORRECT, Germany does not operate the LANCE/or AT version. And what is in the OOB is the A0 version.

Australia
will operate the LANCE w/SPIKE LR ATGW (2) along with APC and other versions. Their BOXERS are still in Manufacturer Trails and the Army just started training on them. I'm not seeing them before Oct. 2021 earliest.

Even at that we'll still need to modify them because the ONLY BOXER in production is the A2 version now. That's what their getting and UK (First deliveries test beds sometime in 2023.)

I'm tracking Australia very closing as I receive their official Army paper in my email, as I've pointed out in the past.

So to be clear...
1. BOXERs for Germany, will all be left in for me to modify. I'll be adding about 5-6 more to represent the A1 AND A2 versions that include weapon station changes as well.

2. You got the LEOPARD 2A6M tanks covered, that being said, I'm giving you my I was looking at for the 2 versions.

Remember we had this discussion when I first posted my tank questions to Ralph before he answered them, in here.

Your response said it all to that Post so those tanks as far as dates were concerned was the first thing I researched across all my sources, they're free to use or not.

Original LEOPARD 2A6M START 10/2004/or JAN 2005 and the END 06/2018

Upgraded LEOPARD 2A6M START 06/2018 and of course END 12/2025.

For those that haven't been following along Germany took the LEOPARD 2A6M give it 2 separate upgrade production designations as the LEOPARD 2A6M+A1 and the LEOPARD 2A6M+.

The dates above reflect the upgrade period, lead back to the following new and "old" designations of LEOPARD 2A6A1 (New Commanders version. Which I do not intend to submit as the following is the same tank.) ) and back again to the LEOPARD 2A6M again.

I would ask to leave the first at TI/GSR 40. It would be the later LEOPARD 2A6 and other that benefitted from ATTICA FCS. I'm trying to keep separation with these FCS's as best as I can. We have self imposed TI'GSR 60 as max for tanks, that works and I'll need it for my LEOPARD 2A7V built.

I've been thinking about this for a while that in case of "mission creep" I might need to increase the TI/GSR on the LEOPARD 2A7.

I've talked about it, but we never addressed the German ATTICA FCS in the game and TI/GSR 45/or 50 for that FCS works for me.

We have to coordinate on this issue 45 or 50 for ATTICA so that I can proceed accordingly. I'll need your numbers for that system so my tanks with match yours.

I gotta get dinner and enjoy the rest of this evening as I'm sure the "fun and games" might alter my mood through the week.


Australia from March 2019 through October 2020. Looking at the JANE's ref bottom maybe JAN 2022 better START date.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/marc...einmetall.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/sept..._vehicles.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/june...v_program.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe..._underway.html
https://www.janes.com/defence-news/n...oured-vehicles


Regards,
Pat
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