[DRG]

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

I have to agree with Aeraaas's above Post 8.

Ukraine: I pointed out the Morale/Training issue about 3-4 weeks ago and I believe recommended it start I think I mentioned ~2018 or so. I received the answer to manually reset it.
But reading it'll be done in the patch is most welcomed, if true.

Of course it is. I posted a screenshot showing it

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

to NATO for exporting the same to the Ukraine. Some discussion about getting Ukraine Med. Rng. SAMs and SPAA (Those German GEPARD 1A2s?).
http://www.military-today.com/artillery/gepard.htm

Regards,
Pat

I am not including the Gepard......yet. Not until we see one on the ground and right now the Russians have air supremacy which is why Ukraine is asking it to be declared a no-fly zone which is an "no-fly" idea ( ATM )... 10 years in storage Gepards are not going to be a turn-key drive away vehicles and crews need to be trained, manuals need to be written in Ukrainian not to mention any labelling inside the vehicle will be in German. These are not something that will show up (IMHO) for months......maybe.

Right now what Ukraine needs are Manpads that are easily moved by much smaller and less conspicuous targets than a Gepard is

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

how vulnerable the T-72 (Also T-60 series and others as well.) series of tanks are to top attack weapons.

The T-72 was a mobile crematorium from day 1 and why the ones that we had rated higher than 4 survivability are now back to 4

EDIT. I may be wrong about this but I don't think there is an abundance of Top attack weapons in Ukraine and most of the spectacularly wrecked T-72 were done with more mundane AT weapons. There are few that won't take a T-72 from the side

FURTHER EDIT

Well I might be wrong about those Top attack missiles



That ,I am near certain, is an NLAW/RB-57 and the caption for that photo reads.....

Ukrainian territorial defence forces with an anti-tank rocket launcher in the outskirts of Kyiv on Wednesday as the Russian military advances on the capital © Efrem Lukatsky/AP

So........ the TDF is getting "the good stuff" ( And I get to make adjustments to the OOB)

Originally Posted by FASTBOAT TOUGH

Don for us, here's our tank from a few years back. This looks like they posted this in the not-too-distant past.
http://www.military-today.com/tanks/t72b4.htm

Note lots of talk about improved fire control but nothing about improved fire SUPPRESSION