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Fallout Re: MBT's

The following was an item that was brought up as an issue needing further clarification on Ukraine's ATGW missiles. This source will be/is better than what we have because it's made by...
https://ukroboronprom.com.ua/

Under the "umbrella" state arms supplier UKROBORONSERVICE (Russian counterpart Rosoboronexport) both listed below if you want to buy a tank.
https://en.uos.ua/
https://roe.ru/eng/


Here specifically are all things ATGW's from Ukraine.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...kombat-i-konus

Highlights of KOMBAT as used on the following tanks: "...T-72, T-80UD and OPLOT main battle tanks equipped with fire control systems compatible with it."

"The missile’s tandem warhead enables it to defeat targets fitted with explosive reactive armor with a first-round hit probability of 0.8-0.9. " If you "split the difference" that makes the minimum average hit probability at 85%.

This is important from Para. 2 ...
"The KOMBAT has four-fold-out fins at its extreme rear and offers an effective range of 5,000 m which it covers in 17 seconds (That's fast in the world of ATGW's at that range). With a mass overall of 30 kilos, the missile is far heavier than Russian counterparts, such as the 125mm REFLEX with a maximum range of 5,000 meters, and the BASTION which fires from 100mm rifled guns to ranges of up to 4,000 meters. A tandem shaped-charge warhead makes up almost half of the KOMBAT’s length, allowing a heavier explosive payload to be delivered to the target. The warhead weighs 9kg, including a 3kg explosive charge (it is by far heavier than the warhead featured in the REFLEX), contributing considerably to the missile’s armor piercing capability, which, again, much exceeds that of the REFLEX.

It is important the reader understands that the Ukraine had operated these missiles (REFLEX) for a VERY long time and still does as far as I can determine. Just like also they built those tanks for the Russian army that are using them now in country, a little "irony" there.

Quick notes: 5000m effective range/3kg explosive shaped charge tandem hollow charge warhead/750mm armor penetration behind ERA. You can "substitute after it penetrates the ERA, it'll still go through 750mm of steel armor. I wouldn't want to be in a tank without any ERA, because that would probably be your last day in that tank.

All other ATGW missiles are listed on in the right-hand column including helo, 105mm, 100mm and other systems including 30mm ZTM-1/ZTM-2 AC.
https://en.uos.ua/produktsiya/vooruz...kombat-i-konus


The above was originally posted on August 29, 2017 @ 12:07am Page 68 Post 676. I verified the sites are current, though posted before in other past posts the Russian sites were added this fine early morning. The data has not changed, though as I seem to remember a couple of items weren't service at the time of posting.I could be wrong about that though. All weapons have been in service since 2017 or before.

Point Made.

Before I go, look what I found? You'll notice one of the sources for the "doubters" is SIPRI, imagine that from the Congressional Research Service. Anyway, a good read on the Russian weapons industry ordered by Congress as things were heating up late last Fall in the Ukraine.
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R46937


Well, it's 0350 here which begs the question, do you know where your bed is? I'm going to try to find mine. .

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