Don and I had a "
discussion" before the last patch concerning where we thought some of these tanks we've been expecting for a
VERY LONGTIME would've already have reached
FOC but haven't for any combination of reasons
WELL DOCUMENTED in this thread. One of these was the
ALTAY. The rest included the ARMATA, CHALLENGER 3 (FOC already declared by MOD as 2030.), M1A2A (Australia MOD declared IOC in 2025.), ARIETE (Also referred to as the ARIETE C1.) (Italy never went ahead with the current C2 tanks in the game. More on this in my files as I'm currently tracking the NEW modified version. STATUS: Best I can give you at this time is it's LIKELY to get in.) and the LeClerc LX "will come down to the wire".
There are a couple of "
outliners" but the above would in most people's minds be the more important ones.
Our solution to
FOC dates for most above was to set the
START for them to
DEC 2025.
The reason(s) should be obvious for many of you who've followed this Thread over the years (And
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!) for others basically my job is easy, I track these projects until the scent is dead, report the results and make my recommendations and discuss alternative solutions to fix the problem. Though
very time consuming my end is a little easier.
Don: checks my work as I would expect him to do, we come to a consensus and if the fix is needed, he fixes it in the OOB and
most times multiple OOB's depending on the issue(s) and then he has to "comb" through
all the Campaigns and Scenarios and fix them there. That stuff is beyond my capabilities, and I have
NO DESIRE to learn. It's
NOT what I do. I'm a "
deep miner" and
Electronics and associated systems guy (Plus a
darn good navigator.
) not a
programmer or some such. That's why I have
Andy and Don and all the rest of you guys that do that Sxxt out here!!!
There has been nothing more frustrating to us then having too
CONSTANTLY having to push
START dates to the right. This why we chose
DEC 2025 and
OMG how could I have forgotten INDIA and the ARJUN Mk 2?????
So back to the
ALTAY, I had already reported that Turkey signed a contract with South Korea (
S.K.) to buy engines from them for the
ALTAY (As reminder, the ALTAY is based on the K2.) . I'm not going to rehash everything that delayed the
ALTAY except for the most recent from
4 years ago when Turkey was forced to attempt to produce their own
1500hp engine from scratch.
Well, here we are.
The
PROTOTYPE with the
S.K. engine is ready to start evaluations this or next month.
They are
progressing in the development of their own engine as well but that will also require a
PROTOTYPE.
Production
could start within
2yrs. which would put our
START date about on target.
Maybe.
Note the
conclusion reached also in the last para of the article.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...altay_mbt.html
ARIETE C1 (As referred to in the next.) will start with three
PROTOTYPES the following: "
AMV PT1, which will feature improvements to the hull, the
PT2 which will feature improvements to the turret, and finally the
PT3 which will incorporate improvements to both the turret and hull."
My
personal feeling is since the
war started after this plan they will end up with the
PT3 with
further improvements to include
APS. Hopefully "
I won't have to eat too much crow" concerning that prediction.
https://www.armyrecognition.com/weap...ttle_tank.html
Crap after 3
time for a shower!!
As a
postscript to my last in
Post 1350 I've
concluded Russia doesn't have a "
road following" tank shell. I'm back to my
opening remark in my opinion.
Regards,
Pat
