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Old February 9th, 2023, 04:02 AM
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Fallout Re: SP and SPAA Developments

The sale of HIMARS is still in the proposal stage. The Dept. of State has approved the sale and has notified Congress which will have to approve it. From there it goes to the President. All will approve of the sale. It will take some time.

Before I continue that'll be 18 launcher systems (Truck mounted) and 468 HIMARS Launcher Loader Module kits (Weapons Pods.) plus more as ref below breaks down nicely.)

As is mostly the case correct my "marine buddy" is seriously correct.

One of my "*****es" out here but please contain your enthusiasm, take a deep breath and proceed to read your sources carefully and slowly to avoid confusion and possible unnecessary work.

And I've been there myself and for those that have been here awhile, might remember my fun with MRAPS (For your entertainment as time allows, you'll find it all at the start of that Thread.) back when I thought I could be of some help out here!?!

Indications are unlike the ones sent to the Ukraine, Poland's will be "new build" ones and not from USA inventory for which we've also have contracted Lockheed Martin to build new units to replace (Ones sent to the Ukraine.) and to further increase our inventory of HIMARS.

If the decision in the end should change and be taken from USA inventory instead, I feel your date should be about right.

But this article clearly states Lockheed Martin has been contracted to fulfill the Poland contract in which case you'll be looking at 1 - 1.5 years.

If we continue sending more from our stocks to the Ukraine in the interim, you can guess who'll have priority in the new production units. It won't be Poland.

The world is focused on the Ukraine but given recent events here in regard to China to include the cancellation of the Sec. of State visit that was scheduled for next week, things are a little more tense now.

Some reputable "think tanks" see the possibility we might go to a limited war with China as early as 2025 given current events. This has been reported by the "mainstream" media here.

This of course is hypothetical at this point but, if the trend continues, you'll see a policy shift more towards the Far East from us over time.

My best guess is at least a year away or more for Poland. The para below from the ref would seem to support this.

"The principal contractor will be Lockheed Martin, Grand Prairie, TX. Implementation of this proposed sale will require U.S. Government or contractor representatives to travel to Poland for program management reviews to support the program. Travel is expected to occur approximately twice per year as needed to support equipment fielding and training.

This notice of a potential sale is required by law. The description and dollar value is for the highest estimated quantity and dollar value based on initial requirements. Actual dollar value will be lower depending on final requirements, budget authority, and signed sales agreement(s), if and when concluded."
https://www.armyrecognition.com/defe...0_billion.html


On a side issue while "We are fighting our annual War on Terror" please PM me for "drop dead date" to send my final submission to include 5 new build tanks (Across 4 countries.) with some changes to an OOB (Done with one new build and an export almost finished. ).

And no, I'm NOT saying for who or what. You stay with the Ukraine etc. as I've invested too much on this project not to finish it myself for this submission or next with all due respect.

I need some sleep next week "the world is going to ****" and we're just ramping up to it.

Regards,
Pat
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