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Old July 29th, 2024, 01:59 AM
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Patch Post 2024/2025 Campaign


The KAPLAN (TURKEY FNSS) and HIRAMAU (INDONESIA PINDAD) both meaning “TIGER” is a jointly developed project between both of the above-mentioned countries. It also represents the only tank exported to another country by Turkey. I’m submitting the following at the STANAG 5 level of protection which is Level 5: Kinetic Energy Threat: 25 mm APDS-T (M791) or TLB 073 at 500 meters with 1258 m/s (frontal arc to centerline: ±30°, elevation 0°). Artillery: 155 mm High Explosive at 25 meters.

It is also to be noted that the following are built on the same chassis, I bring this up because when you look at the KAPLAN-ATV and HIRAMAU I personally felt something seemed “different” for whatever reason. Yes, I checked against myself, and all is good.

TURKEY/ADD/KAPLAN-ATV/START/JUN 2020/END/DEC 2025/CREW 4/SWIM/FULLY AMPHIB/EW 0/RADIO 90/TI/GSR 60/WEAPONS/UMTAS ATGW/2 READY/12 STORED/RNG. 0.5km – 8km (<30S)/PHA UP TO 1200mm/AA ALT. UP TO 4km/WARHEAD/Tandem High-Explosive Anti-Tank Blast Fragmentation/ RS TURRET COAX 7.62mm /LASER RF 22/STABILISER 5/SURVIBILITY 5/ V-HULL (MINE)/STEEL 12/8/5/3/2/2/5/HEAT 14/10/5/0/0/0/5/ERA 8/6/0/0/0/0/5/ROF 2 READY/SMOKE DISCHARGERS 2 REAR MOUNTED BANKS.// While in the initial testing phase the KAPLAN-ATV system was using the OMTAS Med. Rng. ATGW (Ref. below) which is being used on the recently available PARS 4x4, PARS and Man Portable Launchers. The warhead is of a different configuration with a PHA of 1000mm at ½ the Max. Rng. of the UMTAS which was completing land launch testing before the KAPLAN-ATV went into production. Some refs provided simply to provide for a better look at the unit. Also, the first 6 were delivered in March 2020.
https://militaryleak.com/2020/03/26/...tank-vehicles/
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/con...aplan-atv-3916
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...o-turkish-army
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...nd%20of%202023.
https://www.fnss.com.tr/en/products/...-turret-photos
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/...9732_omtas.pdf
https://www.roketsan.com.tr/uploads/...2_umtas-en.pdf


The issues are obvious from the refs. Each of the above missiles are in the field currently as these missiles are replacing their TOW and MILAN across all weapon systems. We would need 1 Man Portable for each missile, 1 PARS 4x4, 1 PARS with the OMTAS (2017 on.) and 1 PARS with the UMTAS (2020) . Also, in my search I came across the T-129 UNITS 621-623 and was wondering if the UMTAS missiles they have match the 1200mm armor penetration from the refs? Also, the T-129 ATAK can carry 12 UMTAS or 8 with 8 AA missiles (Look like STINGERS in the pod.) as the top picture of the ref. shows below.
https://www.army-technology.com/proj...ystem/?cf-view

INDONESIA/ADD/HARIMAU (TIGER)/START/MAR 2024/END/DEC 2025/CREW 3/SPEED 78km/h/ EW 0/RADIO 90/TI/GSR 60/WEAPONS/105mm HP/16 IN AUTO LOADER-12 AIR TRANSPORTABLE/XX STORED/ROF X/COAX 7.62mm/PINNACLE 12.5mm/TESTED SAT FOR BOTH OMTAS/UMTAS ATGMS/NOT PURCHASED/LASER RF 22/STABILISER 5/or 6/SURVIBILITY 5/ V-HULL/STEEL/12/8/5/14/7/7/5/HEAT/14/10/5/16/8/8/5/SMOKE DISCHARGERS 2x4 TURRET MOUNTED 1 EACH SIDE.//
Let's deal with the stored 105 ammo issue some refs are indicating more rounds are stored however, not many are, or a couple say the ammo loadout is “classified”. Sixteen does seem low and if I had to take guess, I would say it could carry somewhere between 6-10 rounds of 105mm stored based on the size of the tank. That’s just my “best guess”, that’ll be a call for you to make. To the rest it has full “Hunter Killer” capability. D/R/I to identify a target in daylight at 5km/Night at 3.5km/70 hexes. I can see it coming so; D/R/I Detect/Recognize/Identify. There is no optional equipment with the Indonesian versions so it has Shot Detection System (SDS) (Some might call it Sniper Detection) and Laser Warning System (LWS). I don’t see the PULAT APS on the Indonesian tanks, but it is available. A note on PULAT they seem to have made the modules much smaller from when they were first mounted primarily on their M-60 tanks in Syria. You’ll find it in the last ref. look for it forward of and between "Cockerill" (Turret) and "TANK" on the hull.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacifi...litary/3174912
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...ndonesian-army
https://johncockerill.com/wp-content...-a4h-en-hd.pdf
https://www.armyrecognition.com/mili...nce-belgium-uk
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...kaplan-mt.html
https://www.armyrecognition.com/mili...t-fnss#details
https://www.fnss.com.tr/en/products/kaplan-mt
https://www.armyrecognition.com/news...4iLCJ0YW5rIl0=


Used mostly the following UNIT as a reference due to approximate size and weight (Others were also considered for comparative purposes in the build of the above.) USA/UNIT 306/M2A3+ Bradley. //.

Hell I’ll “roll the dice” on the other and get this to you in a few minutes.

I will be out until early evening as CINCLANTHOME and the daughter have invited me to see to lunch, movie and some shopping. Besides she sees enough of the movies I want to see so “fair-is-fair”.

Regards,
Pat
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