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Old May 23rd, 2025, 03:18 AM
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Fallout Re: MBT's

Alright for the sake of getting some sleep and to save Don a "little time" I've taken a look at the Australian M1A1 AIM SA UNIT 026 as compared to the the Ukrainian ABRAMS UKR* UNIT 714.

The Ukrainian version is nothing more than the M1A1 Export version of the tank submitted with the ERA added to it as later reports had shown.

Generally speaking it is important to note when these tanks were delivered to both countries, 2007 for Australia and 2023 for the Ukraine.

So it makes perfectly good sense that the Ukrainian version would have the improved TI/GSR 45 vice 40 for the Australian version.

Likewise considering the geographic differences (Or Battlespace.) involved it would make sense that Australia would favor an ammo loadout more on the armor vs. armor were the Ukrainian tank is more well rounded to fight both armor and infantry.

There are "minor" fluctuations in the armor values but not enough to matter in the big picture and one must consider especially concerning Australia's tank was more built to their requirements while we are building those tanks today for a more "general" market.

So as I already mentioned previously we should send the Ukrainians the Australian tanks "as is" for one it'll give the player the option to chose which one will be better suited for the next battle ahead or both working together.

And would you believe it that my ref sort of brings up some of this to a degree but more importantly they will (Ukraine) be receiving these tanks unaltered as is from Australia.

However once they get them they'll add the ERA that UKR UNIT 714 has along with possibly increasing the TI/GSR to 45
though that might fall in closer to "speculation" at this time.

Also for both you might consider the TOP to be 10 VICE 8 for both based on posts I made last year where the Ukraine added a 1 to 1.5 inch armor plate fitted to the ABRAMS turret roof that also had raised grill like "cage" over the plate armor at roughly to same height of 1-1.5 inches as the pictures showed from a couple of those refs. Both were cut to fit the turret as designed I at first I almost missed that until I "blew it up".

From Para 2 of the ref:
"In addition to the logistical issues, the Australian variants could be different from those already sent by the U.S., requiring Ukrainian crews to undergo extra training."

What I think about the "training" issue to me falls in line with I have any number of wonderful and beautiful bridges I'll sell you a bargain price in NYC!?!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...50c9a742&ei=20

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