BING! Lightbulb moment!
Size of empires and score has absolutly no corelation to who is the dominant empire in subjugation or protectorate treaties!!
The only thing that matters is who requested the treaty. The empire requesting the treaty becomes the dominant party in the agreement, the empire accpeting the treaty is the submissive party in the agreement.
This is a total suprise to me. But I checked it in 1.49 and it's the case there as well. I was under the mistaken impression that whichever side requests the subjugation or protectorate wa irrelevant and the relative scores determined who paid the tariffs to whom. I got that impression from reading this in the manual:
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Subjugation is where one empire dominates another. The larger empire usually controls the smaller one and limits its interactions with the rest of the universe. In a Subjugation treaty, one empire is the stronger and one is the weaker. The weaker empire is not allowed to form any treaties with other empires. They must also pay 40% of their resources each turn to the stronger empire. The stronger empire will get to see any new vehicle designs created by the weaker empire, and will share in all of the weaker empire's technological discoveries. The treaty can be broken by either empire at any time.
Protectorate is where one empire (the stronger) offers to protect another empire (the weaker) for a modest fee. The weaker empire must pay 20% of their resources each turn to the stronger empire. The stronger empire is "supposed" to protect the weaker empire from any and all enemy threats. The treaty can be broken by either empire at any time.
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I think the key here is "The larger empire usually(my emphasis) controls the smaller one and limits its interactions with the rest of the universe." If a smaller empire has the hutzpah to suggest a subjugation to a larger empire, as is apparently the case for Sandstig, then they will receive the tariffs if the treaty is accepted.
Extrodinary. I had no idea. Am I the only one (Besides Sandstig of course
) Suprised by this?
Geoschmo