[JeffG]

Sounds like SEIV took a few steps back. That's too bad. Though I'm definitely enjoying the game (primarily PBEM) I really don't feel it was worth the amount that had to be paid after postage, etc. For the same price you can get retail games like Age of Empires II, Master of Orion II (when it came out), etc., which I think are much more enjoyable games. In fact, I think I like MOO ][ better than SE4, though SE4 is definitely fun. I have to confess, more visual glitz would've made the $40 (or whatever it was) a better investment for me.

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Cheers!
Jeff George