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December 13th, 2003, 12:59 PM
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overpowered satyrs
Dear Illwinter,
I would like to suggest in the strongest possible terms that Pangaean satyrs are hideously overpowered. One satyr, all by himself, killed my ubergolem.
My ubergolem, if you are wondering, had the Unquenched Sword, Barrier, Spirit Helm, Monolith Armor, Boots of the Planes, Amulet of Antimagic and Pendant of Luck. He had 85 hp, 37 protection, 23 mr.
His first combat against Pangaea went extremely well. He teleported into their army and obliterated the hapless Pangaean units. On his second attack, he ran into The Satyr From Hell.
The battle started out fine...harpies moved in...and died. Then the minotaurs moved in...and died. The remaining forces were routed and ran away.
Then the trap was sprung. A few units, including The Satyr From Hell, stayed on the far side of the battlefield. My ubergolem lumbered across the map, trying to get into lightning bolt range. The Last few units ate lightning bolts... except for this one satyr. My ubergolem moved into range and....
...the battle was over. Satyr wins, ubergolem dies.
At first I assumed my golem was killed by a congenital heart defect. After watching the battle again, I concluded that satyrs have some hitherto unknown superweapon. My golem was deliberately and maliciously lured into range of this superweapon and then annihilated.
So please, Illwinter, tame the mighty satyr before other would-be supercombatants fall to their mighty hoofs.
Caseus
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December 13th, 2003, 03:51 PM
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Re: overpowered satyrs
Did you save the game off to the side so Illwinter (and others) can check it?
Did your golem fatigue himself running across the battlefield to the point that he just stood there and got hit?
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December 13th, 2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: overpowered satyrs
It's also entirely possible that the open ended damage roll simply got very large.
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December 13th, 2003, 06:16 PM
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Re: overpowered satyrs
I didn't save it, but I should be able to recreate it
Jokes aside, the satyr didn't kill my golem. And the golem had no fatigue. Barrier prevents him from being affected by the Unquenched Sword.
I'm guessing it was a timeout issue. I placed the golem at the far left of the map. He took forever to get across the battlefield. Several units never retreated like they should have -- they stood there at the edge of the map, unmoving, while the "forces of Pangaea have been routed" message appeared over and over.
Assuming battles Last a fixed amount of turns, when the time limit was reached all units retreat. Since the golem can't retreat he died.
I'll try to recreate what happened.
Caseus
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December 13th, 2003, 07:25 PM
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Re: overpowered satyrs
Quote:
Originally posted by Caseus:
Jokes aside, the satyr didn't kill my golem. And the golem had no fatigue. Barrier prevents him from being affected by the Unquenched Sword.
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Was it a Satyr Reveler? If it's berserk then it won't rout even after the rest of the army has gone.
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December 13th, 2003, 08:22 PM
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Re: overpowered satyrs
That could be it actually, there's a turn limit at which the attacker is forced to retreat, and a couple turns afterwards all attacking units are killed if they haven't left yet. Golem's dont retreat under these circumstances, but just die. I lost some perfectly good snake bladder stick + Golem combos to this, and I'd bet it's what happened to you.
Next time give him some winged boots.  If its a astral golem he can just teleport anyway with +1 astral starshine skullcap, so you dont need the boots. And the lightning bolts arent really needed with that lumbering monstrosity with the unquenched sword. 
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