India vs Pakistan 2008/09 Scenarios

[MarkSheppard]

In light of the increased tensions following the Bombay attacks, I've begun to compile a list of both side's munitions and the probability of their use:

Guide to the Indian TOE with units arranged in increasing order of commonness from Most Common to Least Common

TANKS:
T-72M1: Brought from the Soviet Union. (at least 1,000 were imported)
Ajeya Mk 1: Indian produced T-72M1 (900~ built)
Ajeya Mk 2: Modernized T-72M1; fire control and night vision upgraded. (692 wanted, as of July 2008, 415 were delivered)
T-55/105: Overhauled T-55. As of 2005, they had 450 operational T-55s.
T-90S Bhishma: 310 bought from Russia, deal inked to import another 347 in 2007; current count is unknown, but at least 400 probably.
Arjun: Program will end when 124 are delivered.

IFVs:
There's really just one choice here; the BMP-2 Sarath. It's an Indian Produced BMP-2. About 1,200~ were built. You should use the Sarath-M as it's the most modern; e.g. it's not that hard to upgrade the cannon ammo, etc.

ARTILLERY:
Catapult: Primary SP Artillery System. The Bhim from what I've been reading, appears to be still caught in "developmental limbo", with no real decision made on producing it for the Indian army made.

Towed Artillery: Essentially anything goes; the Indians have large amounts of everything.

[redcoat2]

Interesting stuff Mark. Are you compiling similar info for Pakistan?

India and Pakistan nearly went to war in late 2001/early 2002 under similar circumstances - following a terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament. I hope they will show more restraint this time. There hasn't been a military build up on the frontier so far - as in 2001.

Indian high tech weaponry.

T-90S



BMP-2 Sarath



Together ...



Indian low tech ...

A desert-mobile high viewing platform

[MarkSheppard]

Interesting stuff Mark. Are you compiling similar info for Pakistan?

Now I am.

India and Pakistan nearly went to war in late 2001/early 2002 under similar circumstances - following a terrorist attack on the Indian Parliament. I hope they will show more restraint this time. There hasn't been a military build up on the frontier so far - as in 2001.

Well, things are a lot grimmer this time; I mean in the Parliament attack; only five people died; thsi time around, we have a much larger casualty count -- this is not something that can be brushed under the carpet and resolved via shouting...

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

This may give us a good campaign... Any designers reading this?

[MarkSheppard]

M48A5 ~ unknown
Type 59-II - 800~ being phased out
Type 69-I ~ unknown
Type 69-II - ~unknown
T-80UDP 400-500~ in service
Type 85-IIAP - 500~ in service
Al Zarrar - 500~ in service
Al Khalid - 600~ in service

APCs?:
Al Fahd - 140~
Talha - Modernized M113A2 - 400+ may be higher; as they want 2,000 by 2010.
M113 - 1,500 of various marks

Helos:

AH-1S - 18
AH-1F - 20
Bell 412 - 25
Mi-17 - 86

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

Some more pakistani info
MBT
Al Khalid II Main Battle Tank: - Reportedly under development, it will replace Al Zarrar and T-59 tanks from 2012.
Armored Personnel Carriers(APC)

Pakistani APCs are upgraded and redesigned versions of M113 and are currently being manufactured at Heavy Industries Taxila(HIT).

* Al-Talha - Five roadwheel armored personnel carrier. Pakistan currently operates 400 of these machines and expects to operate 2000 Al-Talha's by 2010
* Al-Hadeed - Armored Repair and Recovery version of Al-Talha.
* Al-Hamza - Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle version of Al-Talha.
* Al-Maaz - Variant fitted with the Baktar Shikan anti-tank missile.
* Al-Qaswa - Armored Logistics Vehicle version of Al-Talha.
* Al-Saad - Armored six roadwheel personnel carrier version of Al-Talha.
* Al-Sakb - Armored logistics support and command post carrier version of Al-Talha. It is fitted with an Integrated Battlefield Management System.

thats what i've found about armor
Their Air force uses
F-16, F-7PG, F-7MP, Mirage-III, JF-17, A-5C and Mirage-V,

[redcoat2]

Pakistani MBTs

Al Khalid



T-80



Pakistani APCs

Al-Talha



The Talha seems to be listed as the ‘Tahla’ in the Pakistan OOB.

It is also in service with the Iraqi army.

Al-Saad



I don’t know whether it is in service … yet.