|
|
|
|
|
November 14th, 2008, 04:32 PM
|
|
Second Lieutenant
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 509
Thanks: 84
Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts
|
|
What is a Gode?
I was just curious about some of the -heim units and the origins of their names. For instance, "Jarl" is the Scandinavian form of "Earl", the title of nobility equivalent to a Duke and generally referring to someone of at the level of a chieftain. But there are some others I don't know:
EDIT: Posted the answers, thank you to those who contributed!
Gode - Godi were Aesir priests
Herse - Hersir were military leaders under Jarls.
Van (prefix) - Short for Vanir a house of Norse gods
Skratti - Icelandic for "Devil". Also, a wizard.
Huskarl - "House man" or bodyguard of some kind
Hirdman - Another personal bodyguard
Asmeg - Descendant of the Aesir after Ragnarok
Can anyone help me out?
Last edited by sector24; November 15th, 2008 at 11:25 AM..
Reason: Posted the answers to my question
|
November 14th, 2008, 05:08 PM
|
|
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Tennessee USA
Posts: 2,059
Thanks: 229
Thanked 106 Times in 71 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
I don't know about the ones you listed, but I think "Huscarl" means "House Man" referring to the men who attended a noble's house. Atleast I think so .
__________________
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH NEXT TURN.
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Foodstamp For This Useful Post:
|
|
November 14th, 2008, 05:20 PM
|
|
General
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 3,603
Thanks: 0
Thanked 22 Times in 22 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
"Van" is the singular form of Vanir, a group of gods in Norse mythology opposed to the Aesir.
I'd looked up Skratti and got the same answer you did... there's probably another spelling involved, but the meaning shouldn't be too far off from 'witchery is involved!'.
I think Herse is another spelling for Hersir, a sort of warrior/lord under a Jarl who commands a band of warriors.
Gode is a different spelling for Godi, which was a fairly high-ranking priest involving in a particular aspect of the cult, but the specifics escape me at the moment.
Unless I am sorely mistaken, Huscarls are indeed "Housecarls", yet another spelling that may be more obvious for the modern eye... they were armed, though, so don't get them confused with lowly servants
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Alneyan For This Useful Post:
|
|
November 14th, 2008, 05:21 PM
|
Corporal
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 94
Thanks: 13
Thanked 18 Times in 10 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
Well, some of the words have been used slightly differently over time and in different areas, but they are all from the Nordic culture.
Gode - essentially a priest of the Aesir
Herse - a chieftain
Van - this prefix is taken from the other (not the Aesir) family of gods called the Vanir.
Skratti - wizard
Hope that helped.
Edit:
A bit late, I see.
And now that I am at it, I might as well mention that 'Skratti' may mean troll as well.
Last edited by Amorphous; November 14th, 2008 at 05:23 PM..
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Amorphous For This Useful Post:
|
|
November 14th, 2008, 05:30 PM
|
|
General
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: R'lyeh
Posts: 3,861
Thanks: 144
Thanked 403 Times in 176 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
I think you can find those in the Edda. Vanir live in Vanaheimr. Skrattinn seems to be another name for Satan, yes.
Van seems to mean something like "the Glamorous", "the Habituals", "the familiar gods of fields and meadows".
Edit: the others are right, goði is a priest. And the hersir was a military commander.
Last edited by lch; November 14th, 2008 at 05:35 PM..
|
The Following User Says Thank You to lch For This Useful Post:
|
|
November 14th, 2008, 05:53 PM
|
Private
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 47
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
ON a related note, what is the meaning of asmeg ? Does those people appear in nordic mythology too ?
|
November 15th, 2008, 03:14 AM
|
|
Major General
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scotland
Posts: 2,066
Thanks: 109
Thanked 162 Times in 118 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch
Skrattinn seems to be another name for Satan, yes.
|
Presumably 'Old Scratch' would be derived from that, then. Cool.
|
November 16th, 2008, 07:32 PM
|
|
Corporal
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 55
Thanks: 1
Thanked 10 Times in 2 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
Quote:
Originally Posted by lch
I think you can find those in the Edda. Vanir live in Vanaheimr. Skrattinn seems to be another name for Satan, yes.
Van seems to mean something like "the Glamorous", "the Habituals", "the familiar gods of fields and meadows".
Edit: the others are right, goði is a priest. And the hersir was a military commander.
|
(I'd render 'ð' as 'th' instead of 'd'.)
I couldn't find any references to Asmegs on the Googlosphere. Anyone know of any resources or alternative spellings?
|
November 16th, 2008, 08:44 PM
|
|
General
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: R'lyeh
Posts: 3,861
Thanks: 144
Thanked 403 Times in 176 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Singularity24601
(I'd render 'ð' as 'th' instead of 'd'.)
|
Well, if you want. The english 'th' is being pronounced too closely to 's' for me though, while 'ð' is phonetically equivalent to the greek delta and was mostly replaced by 'd' according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ð
Quote:
Originally Posted by Singularity24601
I couldn't find any references to Asmegs on the Googlosphere. Anyone know of any resources or alternative spellings?
|
Maybe ásmegin. I don't speak norse, but that's what you can find in the norse Gylfaginning and Skáldskaparmál versions of the younger Edda. Wikipedia unfortunately only lists a band of the same name. Literally As-strength or Áss-power, the Wikipedia article says that it means "by/with the might of the gods".
|
November 14th, 2008, 06:12 PM
|
|
Second Lieutenant
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Durham, NC
Posts: 509
Thanks: 84
Thanked 44 Times in 14 Posts
|
|
Re: What is a Gode?
Thanks, everybody. You all get a forum "thanks" and I put the answers in the first post.
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
|
|