Upgrade Paths in Campaign

CarbonNitride · #1 April 24th, 2015, 06:55 AM

Are the upgrade paths for generated campaigns posted somewhere? I've tried the manual and a search but I've only uncovered that they have changed. I'm trying to convert a M2A3 BUSK III (unit class 127) to a M3A3 BUSK AT (unit class 19). However, the M3A3 BUSK AT isn't present but the M3A3 BUSK (unit class 121) is. What I want to know is if it's worthwhile to make the attempt or if I 'll end up winding through too many intermediates.

Suhiir · #2 April 24th, 2015, 08:05 AM

There's no "upgrade path".
Any unit can be upgraded/converted to any other unit of the same general type that's available in the time period covered by the campaign.

Suhiir · #3 April 24th, 2015, 08:09 AM

P.S.

Keep in mind the basic unit type when upgrading.
If you start out as say a tank and change it to SP artillery the unit will still have the skills of a tank (vehicle) thus will be a lousy artillery unit (no artillery skill).

CarbonNitride · #4 April 24th, 2015, 05:23 PM

So, if I can't convert my M2A3 to a M3A3 AT right now I simply won't be able to do so? Is there a place where I can find the groupings? Ultimately, 3 TOW missiles isn't that big a deal but it just seems weird I can convert an Abrams into a HMMWV with stingers but I can't convert a troop carrying variant of the Bradley into an Anti-Tank variant of the Bradley.

scorpio_rocks · #5 April 24th, 2015, 06:10 PM

Sometimes you cant go directly from one class type (list in GG "MBT Unit Classes") to another but can get there by swapping to a third class first (ie perhaps APC -> tank -> SP atgm). However this will lead to two loses in experience, as the crews grapple with new equipment, and as Suhiir points out may lead to the crews having the "wrong skillset".

Often its easier and more economical to delete the core unit and expand the core with the desired replacement.

scorpio_rocks · #6 April 24th, 2015, 06:23 PM

P.S. What about the PBI? I guess they are walking

CarbonNitride · #7 April 24th, 2015, 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpio_rocks

P.S. What about the PBI? I guess they are walking

It's the HQ platoon, 1 infantry squad with 3 Bradleys. So, HQ squad will have a ride and the 2 extra Bradleys I want to turn into AT units. I guess if the other platoons lose a Bradley they'll have to walk.

Side note, can I combine platoons?

Suhiir · #8 April 25th, 2015, 03:37 AM

If the current campaign date is prior to January 1996 then no you cannot upgrade as the M3A3 isn't available until that date.

Unit# 007 M3A3+ Bradley 01/1996-09/2001
Unit# 305 M3A3 Bradley 10/2001-12/2020
Unit# 667 M3A3 Bradley 01/1996-06/2001
Unit# 668 M3A3 Bradley 10/2001-12/2020
Unit# 898 M3A3 BUSK AT 01/2012-12/2020
Unit# 898 M3A3 BUSK 01/2012-12/2020

Suhiir · #9 April 25th, 2015, 03:42 AM

Combine platoons?
Do you mean can you change the company HQ a platoon is attached to?
Do you mean add the units attached to one platoon to another platoon?

CarbonNitride · #10 April 25th, 2015, 07:25 PM

It's January 2020 so I don't think time is an issue.

By combine platoons I mean the second. I want to take units from platoon C and give them to platoon B. So, I want to take units that are in formation C in the unit list and give them to formation B in the unit list.