AI and Facilities - ARGGHH

Jason2 · #1 March 4th, 2001, 10:22 PM

The AI is fairly combative now with the modpack and new patch... but it builds in incredibly STUPID ways.

I had all the new mod-pack races set in the game and then played about 50 turns... then I went to look at their planets. Many had 30 facility planets where they had built a total of 4 (aaaarrrgghhh) facilities.... this flaw was seen over and over.

The second flaw was the types! They would build weird-*** stuff... if a planet had 150% minerals, they would have 4 mines but the rest research and storage!?!?

I think before anything else is patched this should be... it would make a tremendous difference in the AI and game play simply by giving it much more research and resources in a non-bonus game... sigh.

Jason2

mottlee · #2 March 4th, 2001, 10:28 PM

Yes I've seen this also, something else would be if youare setting on a warp point (or planet) the compuiter will attack you with 1 ship even if you have a fleet there
(can you say DEAD)
Mott

raynor · #3 March 5th, 2001, 10:20 AM

I just loaded up my turn 162 med bonus game with all of the TDM races and switched them all to human control. I must say that I'm extremely happy with ALL of the races. Their choices for what to build on a planet are EXCELLENT. There is about a one thousand percent improvement over the previous Version of the game. The computer made such poor choices of what to build on planets in 1.19 that it needed at least three times as many planets to equal my production. Now, that is no longer the case. A human player is still going to make much better choices. But I think the computer is doing much, much better.

Regarding the computer planets with fewer than the max facilities: Is it possible that they AI only colonized these planets 'N' turns ago and just hasn't had a chance yet to fill them with facilities?

The computer doesn't put anything in the construction queue until it processes its turn; unless it is building a facility that takes longer than one turn, you won't see it building anything when you switch to human control. Could you please see if maybe that's the case? I hope that it is! Please, make note of which planets have fewer than the max faciliites. Then, after you switch them back to computer control, let three of four turns go by before you switch them back to human control. I hope they will have built more facilities on those planets.

Tampa_Gamer · #4 March 6th, 2001, 02:03 AM

jason2 - please send a copy of the save game my way too ctraber@ngn-tampa.com so I can take a look as well. Thanks.

Windborne · #5 March 6th, 2001, 02:44 AM

Sounds like that's some smart AI, I usually do the same kind of thing myself, four or five production units, followed by a lot of research and storage, the storage means that I quickly accumulate more resources early on, the research means i can build BETTER ships to protect my worlds, and once the tech tree is finished i then delete the research and go ahead with more production and storage, of course I'm not sure the AI is up to managing it's fleets efficiently enough to win an economic victory, but at heart SEIV is a game of economics and diplomacy, not just another stupid war-game. Playing this way usually I end up in first place against other HUMAN players, and the AI never stands a chance unless they can wipe me out quick, before everything comes on line. Of course the flaw of wasting space must be fixed! You can always destroy facilities later and rebuild the good stuff there.

[This message has been edited by Windborne (edited 05 March 2001).]

Master Belisarius · #6 March 5th, 2001, 03:04 PM

Jason: what type of colony is?
If the colony is a Space Yard Colony, or a Military colony or a Resuply colony, it could be the problem.