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				 Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Earth bless?
 A test game didn't seem to have it getting any reinvigoration at all.
 
 Or regeneration from nature for that matter.
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Well it isn't sacred so it can't be blessed. Your god does not benefit from your bless. I don't even think shrouds of the battle saint work on pretenders, though I'm not sure. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Mages gain passive benefits of their path levels I believe.
 +1 defense per lvl of water
 E - +1 Prot
 N - unsure
 B - +1 str?
 D - unusure
 A - +1 precision
 F - +1 attack
 S - unsure
 
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 F - +1 Atk/lvl
 A - +1 prec/lvl
 W - +1 Def/lvl
 E - +1 prot/lvl
 S - Unknown
 N - Increases max age, +10 supply/lvl, increased regen affect from cast spells (mechanics?)
 D - Boosts fear (mechanics?), reduces old age afflications (mechanics?)
 B - Assists in blood hunting (mechanics?)
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				October 28th, 2007, 01:06 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Death reduces your chance of getting old age afflictions and boosts fear if you have it/gives you fear when you get enough death magic.
 I think blood just helps with blood hunting.
 Nature increases max age(or is it reduces your age..) and boosts how much regeneration you can get from spells you cast.
 
 I don't know if astral does anything but it offers mind hunt protection.
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Just checked a rainbow, seems that the only obvious affects are for
 
 E, F, A
 
 Didn't see a notation for W,B,N,D
 
 Although Nature could be seen as giving supply/increased max age.
 
 Water may give extra AP but unsure and haven't checked
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Water gives +1 defence per level.
 Nature and death, as far as I can tell, give the effects I listed. Although I did forget about the supply bonus from nature.
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Your god doesn't get your bless?
 That's harsh.
 
 Ok.
 
 I saw the prophet with the bless and just assumed the Pretender got it to.
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Prophets get the bless because they are automatically blessed at all times. Apart from them and commanders with shrouds of the battle saint(S1 and 5 pearls but takes up the body slot) only sacred units which are blessed in battle can gain the effects of your blessing.
 Shrouds of the battle saint can be very useful on mages or valuable commanders:
 A bless like twist fate is great protection from remote spells, even N4 stops mages losing health from afflictions, a death bless means remote attack spells can cripple enemy armies and minor astral gives the ever-useful magic-resistace boosts.
 
 Also, your god benefitting from your bless would be insanely powerful for example an E9 cyclops has 29 protection. Add some reasonable armour and an E9 bless to that+the reinvigoration from the bless and summon earthpower+nature bless regeneration and you have an almost unkillable early game SC with a powerful bless(good for sacreds like Lankas and Niefelheims).
 
 He would have insane protection(29+1 from summon earthpower+more from E9 bless and armour), huge regeneration(high health+Nature bless), 8 reinvigoration(4 bless+4 summon earthpower, can add more with items) and E10 to cast spells like bladewind.
 
 Mages(including pretenders) already gain the previously mentioned passive benefits from their magic, adding the bless to a god would just be a bit too much.
 
			
			
			
			
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				 Re: Does the Cyclops get reinvigoration from an 
 Paths on the mage (pretender included) also boost leadership.  I don't know the exact numbers offhand; it's in the manual, which isn't with me atm.
 S: + magic leadership
 F: + normal leadership
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