What SC do you wish for?

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Thanks mivayan!

I was about to try myself some exploding Abysians!

[Ornedan]

Somewhat back to the original topic of the thread: What good SC chassis can be wished underwater? I'm going for a Wish end-game with a water nation, but noticed my pretender chassis, which I planned on be the one casting Wish, can't ever get out of the water (Scared Statue. Whoops).

[MaxWilson]

Vastness is an entertaining SC, if you have 50 earth gems to burn on empowerment. And it's amphibious so you can wish for it underwater.

-Max

[vfb]

Just teleport your sacred statue to a land province you own (preferably with a lab in it already). You can't buy a sacred status with less than 3S, and it's already amphibious.

[chrispedersen]

Originally Posted by MaxWilson

It's been reported that Phoenix Pyre fatigue (from dying) is shared via a communion, although I don't know if it's pathlevel-adjusted like spells are. So I guess the point of having slaves cast Body Ethereal/Personal Luck is just to harden them against random arrows and such, while the masters wade into personal combat?

It could work. The problem I see is that 1.) Phoenix Pyre is a weak attack (10 AP although w/ AoE 50), 2.) since your damage strategy relies on dying a lot, you'll pick up lots of nasty afflictions like Mute and have to get new masters for the next battle. I see this having use mostly in desperate situations like "must retake capital from surprise attack without any chaff troops or skelly spammers." In most other situations it would be better to just rain Falling Fires on them, w/ Phoenix Pyre as an insurance measure and not your primary damage tactic.

-Max

The point of casting luck and body ethereal is so that you don't kill your slaves with random blink + explosions.

Plus to prevent your enemies from killing with stray arrows. AoE 50 is pretty big.

More to the point, this strategy requires really only a few F1S1 mages, and more straight S1 sages, for example.

There are also some other .. interesting possibilities - but they up the costs.

A. Script them to attack whatever class you want... Large enemy monsters.
B. Equip them with bows of war, script them to fire.
C. Include a Blood Mage with the Relief spell.
D. IF you have 2-3 of these mages, you can cause the enemy not to be able to conquer a territory, due to time out.

[rdonj]

Can't a sacred statue just teleport out of the water? Even aquatic beings can teleport out of the water if given an amulet of the fish.

[Trumanator]

You might be mixing it up with the Sphinx, which really can't move. It can't even teleport.

[AreaOfEffect]

That's why I always get death magic on my Sphinx. Stygian Paths is a wonderful spell.

Edit: You could wish for more of the water royalty if all of them have been summoned already. Thier regeneration is amazing.

[MaxWilson]

Originally Posted by chrispedersen

More to the point, this strategy requires really only a few F1S1 mages, and more straight S1 sages, for example. snip

D. IF you have 2-3 of these mages, you can cause the enemy not to be able to conquer a territory, due to time out.

I don't think that would actually work in practice. Mages with nothing but Fire Shield and Phoenix Pyre are pretty fragile, and frequently get killed twice or more in a turn. Your only source of reinvig is the 5/turn from being > 100, so even with all the slaves to share fatigue I think you won't survive long enough to reach timeout.

-Max

[Kristoffer O]

> That's why I always get death magic on my Sphinx. Stygian Paths is a wonderful spell.

I had a vision of a most strange-looking sneaking stone sphinx passing through the stygian realms with a horde of scared little human followers, much to the surprise of Hades, Nergal and their likes.