Bradley vs Abrams

[void1984]

Hi

What is the point in taking M3A2 Bradley-AT at 467p instead of M1A2 Abrams at 483p. They cost almost the same and MBT comes with a significant armour. Am I missing something important?

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by void1984

Hi

What is the point in taking M3A2 Bradley-AT at 467p instead of M1A2 Abrams at 483p. They cost almost the same and MBT comes with a significant armour. Am I missing something important?

Try comparing the Abrams' top armour against the TOW-2B HEAT penetration, and check the missile class of the TOW-2B (hint: TA-ATGM).

in a defensive battle, or used overwatch to your MBT in the attack, they should prove rather deadly against enemy MBT, provided you can keep at reasonable stand-off range. (Though for a few points less, I would take the APC version with the same missile and gain 6 dismounts over a few more stored ATGM).

Cheers
Andy

[Wdll]

Also it is getting very frustrating fitting an extra 6 soldiers inside the Abrams.

[Imp]

Certainly going for the infantry ones has its merits over the Abrams depends what you want.

Vs Armour good at range though less shots than a tank & firing restrictions.

Everything else it probably does better.
Carrys 6 men & the cannon makes light work of enemy troops helos etc

[iCaMpWiThAWP]

I would take the Abrams if heavy tank action is expected, but if that's not the case, the bradley is more versatile, it will destroy all kinds of armor that show up, destroy infantry, and pack some men to mop up.

[void1984]

OK, I have found the APC version under Infantry/Inf Mech Plt. It comes with pricy Javelin teams, but I can remove halt of that platoon after a purchase to spend only 1221 points. Generally in the places where I can buy an APC only Stryker variants are avalible.

Is "TA-ATGM weapon class" important? Does it behave different than any other weapon with the same ACC, HEAT penetration and warhead?

I was looking for an inexpensive universal armoured support for USA company in 2010. I can see that M1128 MGS+ is used for that task.

I have playe WW2 era much more than MBT and I can see that I should stop considering armour in that era cathegories - tank, armoured car, simple APC. That made me confused why an APC (I have to admit - a sophisticated one) cost the same as heavy tank.

[Wdll]

TA-ATGM can hit a vehicle from the top where it has minimum armor. Most of the time that means the destruction of the target no matter how much armor it has anywhere else.

The problem with ATGMs is that they can be stopped/fooled if the target has CWIS or VIRSS.

The problem with Bradley's and other similar units is that they are easier to destroy. Even with normal artillery you have higher chance of destroying one than a MBT.
MBTs are mocked often, but when they break your lines after some proper artillery barrage to suppress the ATGMs, then the only one laughing is the one with the MBTs.

[void1984]

Originally Posted by Wdll

TA-ATGM can hit a vehicle from the top where it has minimum armor. Most of the time that means the destruction of the target no matter how much armor it has anywhere else.

I am aware how systems like Javelin work in live, but I wasn't aware that it is implemented in the game. I have always thought that the notes besides the ammo description are to help me decipher weapon type, not that there are also used inside the game.

[Mobhack]

Originally Posted by void1984

I am aware how systems like Javelin work in live, but I wasn't aware that it is implemented in the game. I have always thought that the notes besides the ammo description are to help me decipher weapon type, not that there are also used inside the game.

Game Options -> help Tab -> Mobhack Help Button.

Mobhack Help -> Weapons Tab Section -> Weapons Class box lists the weapons types.

The Mobhack help is usually the place to look for technical details.

Cheers
Andy

[DRG]

Originally Posted by void1984

OK, I have found the APC version under Infantry/Inf Mech Plt. It comes with pricy Javelin teams,

Mech Pl [-AT] ( formation 783 )

and

Mech Co [-AT] ( formations 785, 786, 787 )


do not have the Javelin teams .


Don