Spanish OOB32 and OOB33 v.11 (2018)

[Pibwl]

Originally Posted by Pibwl

449,450 CB Protegido, CB Valencia - they should receive bigger icons, being converted trucks (I'll try to find some)

449 CB Protegido - early armoured truck (Camion Protegido) from the 20s for colonial service (truck No.2 https://elfarodeceuta.es/los-primero...to-espanol-ii/ - sometimes captioned as Nash-Quad).
Best icon for the car pictured seems 3445 - current is a small car (and they were usually grey - "Estos camiones protegidos, nombre oficial que recibían, estaban pintados en gris" http://www.panzernet.com/articulos/h...rossps1_gh.htm)
Size should be 3 [now 2].
Used at least until 1934 (Asturia revolt).

It's a detail, but I'd lower its speed to 12-13 [now 14] - there are no data given anywhere, but it was early truck with 40 HP engine and extensive armour.. Most typical Nash-Quad and Latil were built upon 4x4 chassis, although I don't know if these heavy vehicles had off-road capabilities actually.

(BTW: it isn't clear if this peculiar vehicle on the photo wasn't a single one, most typical were boxy bodies on Latils chassis and others http://www.panzernet.com/articulos/h...rossps1_gh.htm, http://elrinconsapiente.blogspot.com...o-espanol.html, https://www.militar.org.ua/militar/t...n-Melilla.html ).


450 CB Valencia - a photo is Oteyza car, built in one unit, not much known http://www.panzernet.com/articulos/h...rossps1_gh.htm (there rather isn't known a specific car Valencia, which is a city name).

Maybe it's worth to replace it with Field armoured car from Barcelona, built in quite a long series of around 10 units? http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww...ructora-field/
For rounded Field, similar icon would be ADGZ: 4023 or green 4024

451 CB T-69 - it was built upon T-69 truck, but it was known as MC-36 ..
Main armament in a turret was clearly 7mm Hotchkiss (BMGs were possibly in sides)
...Size might be 4, although it's an exception for armoured cars - it was very big.

Picture as for its size http://minairons-news.blogspot.com/2...st-update.html

Same for Spain OOB33 unit 564 MC-36/T-26 - a variant with T-26 turret. It should rather have DT CMG instead of Lewis BMG (it had no BMG).
Spain also should have a basic MG-armed variant.

In both OObs they have different icon. Given its size and grey color, best seems 4329 (or smaller 3461)

452 CB FA-I - first delivered on 15 October 36 ('Komsomol' ship) [now 9/36] ("Blindados en Espana" book).

453 CB UNL-35 - icon is a half-track car, best seems 90 with sticking out fenders. It also had a BMG (DT?)

"Production started in early 1937... It is reported that they first saw service in the May Events in Barcelona, 1937" [now 9/36] - http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/Spain/UNL-35 and other sources

Speed was only 55 km/h according to "Blindados en Espana" [now 28] (even 50 km/h according to the page above)

Captured vehicles could be added to Spanish OOB (a couple moths later I guess). There are even some photos of captured vehicles http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/Spain/UNL-35

454 CB Bilbao M 32 - size is too small (2) - they were high box-like vehicles http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww...o-modelo-1932/ Crew was 3 according to that page, but it could take 5 more men.
Speed is quoted to be only 50 km/h (now 24!)
MG was 7mm Hotchkiss (Spain rather didn't use 7.5mm FM at all).

Better icon is 3445 (upper view http://photobucket.com/gallery/user/...TMuanBn/?ref=1) - current is a narrow halftrack.

Same for Nationalist unit 288.

455,456 CB Modelo 37 - known as AAC-1937. Produced from 4/37, used from May [now 2/37] http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww...n/AAC-1937.php The one with 45mm gun was a rare variant, should probably start later, using cannibalized turrets (by the end of 1937?), and should also have DT CMG.
Quite common early variant was also with BMG and French 37 mm gun (however their barrels are apparently longer, than Puteaux SA-18 tank gun or TR-16 infantry gun... Maybe Soviet Hotchkiss, with some better performance?)

The same for Spain OOB33 unit 290 CB Modelo 39 - name "39" seems wrong. They rather had standard Soviet 45mm gun in T-26 turret, not 47mm gun. Sure they were used earlier, than 4/39 (with several month delay to the republican side?). Probably captured MG-armed cars were more common.

BTW: several 37mm-armed and MG-armed cars ended up in France and were used in action in 6/40 (confirmed in Trackstory 20).

475 Trubia M 26 A1 - better known as Trubia A4 (eg https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanque_Ligero_Trubia,

http://elrinconsapiente.blogspot.com...o-espanol.html says there were tanks A-1...A-4 (despite most sources use A4 for all series), so maybe the most precise name would be "Trubia serie A", as sources also use (including "Blindados en Espana" book).