Ancient race, waste?

[Fyron]

It would take away the scout aspect completely.

That is why he said he doesn't take it...

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Stone Mill:
It also saves you movement; your initial progress will not be held up at warp points, as you already "know" the systems. So you don't have to spend a turn discovering a system and sitting at the exit of the warp point. Your ship movement will be more efficient, as you can apply all movement potential.

That is no problem.

From FAQ:
5.10.8 In simultaneous games, when entering an unknown system you don't have to just press "Warp" through that unknown worm hole and let the ship stop on the other side.
After giving the "warp" order open the unknown system and give the ship a "move to" order and press somewhere in that unknown system where you want the ship to go.
Next turn it will warp through and then execute the next order which is to move where you pointed.
You are flying blind but usually in the right direction and it will speed up exploration as the ship doesn't have to stop after each worm-hole. (Ruatha)

[ May 19, 2003, 19:48: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
I don't use it because I like to roleplay a race that have just discovered space travel.
I guess that players that use the Ancient Race Trait use a justification like "our race was exterminated and we survived underground" to explain knowing the Quadrant but not having any ships or colonies.....

Personally when I use it I justify it (if that is even necessary ??) As saying MM just named the trait poorly. Even our prmitive Earth tech can detect planets around other stars. We certainly would not send a colony ship into a black hole system. A race that knows what planets are around them does not take a great strech of the imagination.

[Loser]

Originally posted by Ruatha:
After giving the "warp" order open the unknown system and give the ship a "move to" order and press somewhere in that unknown system where you want the ship to go.

This is possible?

That's amazing...

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Loser:

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
After giving the "warp" order open the unknown system and give the ship a "move to" order and press somewhere in that unknown system where you want the ship to go.

This is possible?

That's amazing...

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Yep, and I discovered it all by myself!

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Ruatha:

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Originally posted by Loser:

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
After giving the "warp" order open the unknown system and give the ship a "move to" order and press somewhere in that unknown system where you want the ship to go.

This is possible?

That's amazing...

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Yep, and I discovered it all by myself!

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This is the most useful bit of advice I have read in a while!!

I never take ancient race btw but it's disconcerting to know that the ancient race player knows where to go to box me in.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by DavidG:
Personally when I use it I justify it (if that is even necessary ??) As saying MM just named the trait poorly. Even our prmitive Earth tech can detect planets around other stars. We certainly would not send a colony ship into a black hole system. A race that knows what planets are around them does not take a great strech of the imagination.

Oh no, in SE4 when you can see a system is because you have been there at sometime in the past.
Otherwise you couldn't possible know the mineral yield of the planets, or their exact location, or the existance of asteroid fields, let alone other warp points and those pesky ruins.

From Earth today we see the stars, and those are market in the small quadrant map on the right of the UI.

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