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Old April 24th, 2004, 11:44 PM

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If it were set aside, A. it wouldn't work as of now, because most people would either already be retired or have nothing in their box and B. you'd be better off letting people keep it and invest it themselves..

EDIT: and very shortly social security won't have a surplus, it'll have a deficit. Should point out this proves it isn't the lockbox model, since by definition you can't have a surplus in that.

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Old April 24th, 2004, 11:46 PM
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sigh, I guess there is no chance for this thread now. *shakes head and walks away*
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Rextorres, you said 50% of your tax dollar. As you point out, if you amend that to nearly 50% of discretionary federal spending, then yes, I agree.

Geo is right, though. This thread has gotten ridiculously OT the OT.

Tillman is a hero to me. As are my dad, Dietrich Bonhoffer, Corrie ten Boom, and many others than mean nothing to many of you. That's fine... everyone is free to choose those that they emulate. I just happen to believe that the world would be a better place if more people approached it with a value system similar to Tillman's.

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Old April 25th, 2004, 12:25 AM

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That's part of the tragedy. The politicians who sent Tilman are the very same ones who did not follow Tilman's example. They did everything within their power not to go.
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Alpha you may delete the thread if you wish. That will end the off topic and political discussion in your thread. Or you can ask that it be locked since you originated the thread.
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For those of you that may have misunderstood:

What I posted below may sound like some poem I found or made up. IT IS NOT! This is the pain that I live with every day of my life; these are things that creep into my mind no matter how hard I try to drive them out.

Tillman is a hero! So are all the others in our armed forces. They are heroes because they chose to join. He didn’t go over to die, he went to serve. Damn the Webster definition of a hero. If you save a baby in a burning car does that make you a hero? If you help a trapped man after a storm does that make you a hero? Yes it does and why? Because you chose to help and he [Tillman] is a hero, along with all the other men and woman of the armed forces, because he choose to serve!

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I just happen to believe that the world would be a better place if more people approached it with a value system similar to Tillman's.
Couldn't agree with you more!

Seems the only thing we are arguing about is the definition of "hero", not the quality of Mr. Tillman.
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