New Pretenders?

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Mortifer:
That Ancient Lord will be useful if you can add it yourself, if you want.
Player ideas can be good, that is true, but I dont think that a pretender will help to Illwinter in anything.

he can add him as a non recruitable monster if he wants, as dom allows to create new units already. And then he will do a map to play with...

[Nerfix]

I don't want to make maps with unplayable nations due my 1337 tweaks. And no, it doesn't have to be unplayable, but you are stuck with that pretender. What if someone wants to play non-CW Pangaea with Lord of the Wild? I don't like maps that stuff the mapmakers choices down the players throat. Thats why i would like to see ability to make preset but not hard-coded pretenders in custom maps.

And i posted something constructive in the modding thread, so please, would increasing the cost of new magic picks to 40 balance Ancient Lord at all?

[Zerger]

Originally posted by Nerfix:
I don't like maps that stuff the mapmakers choices down the players throat.

Make your own map than.

[ October 02, 2003, 13:03: Message edited by: Zerger ]

[Pocus]

Originally posted by Nerfix:
[QB]I don't want to make maps with unplayable nations due my 1337 tweaks.

1337? bear in mind that you are talking with people which could be your grandfather

I don't like maps that stuff the mapmakers choices down the players throat. Thats why i would like to see ability to make preset but not hard-coded pretenders in custom maps.

each time somebody makes a map, then he adds features what he likes, and force you to play with. I dont quite understand you. Except for completely randomized maps, you are playing with what the mapmaker wanted you to play.

[Zerger]

Originally posted by Pocus I dont quite understand you.

I think that sometimes its hellish hard to understand, what Nerfix is trying to tell on these Boards...
Just check out the modding thread for example, but there are lot of examples about his 'unique' thoughts...

[Nerfix]

Originally posted by Pocus:

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Originally posted by Nerfix:
[QB]I don't want to make maps with unplayable nations due my 1337 tweaks.

1337? bear in mind that you are talking with people which could be your grandfather

1337 is an insult to me. I insulted myself. I thougth that out of |-|4x0r community 1337 is an insult. That's the way i use it. As an insult.

I don't like maps that stuff the mapmakers choices down the players throat. Thats why i would like to see ability to make preset but not hard-coded pretenders in custom maps.

each time somebody makes a map, then he adds features what he likes, and force you to play with. I dont quite understand you. Except for completely randomized maps, you are playing with what the mapmaker wanted you to play.

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I was talking about the nations....
*sigh*
Do you realy want to play a map with 8 or even more unplayable nations? Or then you are forced to play with some hard-coded preset Pretenders. I don't want to force players with the preset Pretenders i gave. That's the reason i want ability to make preset but not hard-coded pretenders.

And answer me, would increasing the cost of new magic picks to 40 help Ancient Lord at all?

[ October 02, 2003, 15:17: Message edited by: Nerfix ]

[LordArioch]

I think the issue with the Ancient Lord at the moment is he comes with 2 nature/2 death. It would cost 40+ points to get this magic on an archmage and the Ancient Lord is only costing 75 total and has good physical strength and wonderful equipping possibilities as well as getting new paths for only 30. I'd say either less magic or more cost certainly... I think most physically decent pretenders with that much magic cost at least 100. I'm no expert though.

And IMO, out of |-|4x0r community 1337 is just pretty annoying. In fact it's annoying anyway. Plus you gotta talk so those old folks can understand...or else I'll start criticizing your English. And then you can start critcizing the fact I speak nothing except English.

[ October 02, 2003, 16:37: Message edited by: LordArioch ]