From the mouth of Aristotle

[Zen]

"Evil draws men together." from Rhetoric

[Arryn]

Zen said:
"Evil draws men together."

I thought it was dancing girls that did that? OTOH, in some men's minds, there's no difference.

[Zen]

Women are inherently evil thus, they always draw men

[Arryn]

Zen said:
Women are inherently evil thus, they always draw men

Of course men believe this. Women are smarter (and far more cunning), which makes men feel insecure, and thus men shift blame for their shortcomings to we poor innocent gals. heehee

[Zen]

Arryn said:

Of course men believe this. Women are smarter (and far more cunning), which makes men feel insecure, and thus men shift blame for their shortcomings to we poor innocent gals. heehee

Back FemmeFreud! Back I say!

I'm still of the opinion it has to do with legs, mmm'nnn, and the top part on the legs, mmmm'nnnn. And eyes, dark mysterious eyes along with big racks!

I of course may be wrong, but it's not too often that you see a group of guys oogling a woman for their shortcomings, but for other ... comings.

Either way, I think Aristotle had it right, as you've proven!

[Boron]

Zen said:
Women are inherently evil thus, they always draw men

Not if the man is gay . The most prominent example what can happen then is hitler .

Anyway welcome back zen . Hopefully you will crush me in a future game too

[Zen]

Godwin's Law!

Alert, alert!

[Arryn]

Boron said:
Not if the man is gay . The most prominent example what can happen then is hitler

Hitler wasn't gay. Amongst his many psychological flaws, he appears to have enjoyed being abused and degraded by women (in private), whom he then had murdered later on (couldn't allow anyone to know he's sick and perverted). I'll leave out the details of his perVersions. BTW, Hitler married Eva Braun hours before his death, in case you've forgotten.

[Boron]

Arryn said:

Hitler wasn't gay. Amongst his many psychological flaws, he appears to have enjoyed being abused and degraded by women (in private), whom he then had murdered later on (couldn't allow anyone to know he's sick and perverted). I'll leave out the details of his perVersions. BTW, Hitler married Eva Braun hours before his death, in case you've forgotten.

Well it isn't important but Hitler was gay . Lothar Machtan wrote a 400 page long book about this were he gathered info and proved that Hitler was gay .
This is a main reason why he wanted always to become an artist because in that time only artists were allowed to be gay .
He probably even had an "affair" with Röhm .
But as politician this was at that time a No-No and so to hide this he murdered Röhm and made laws against Gays .

Eva Braun was only "camouflage" for the public .

[Arryn]

Roehm was gay. Hitler wasn't. Hitler despised gays. It was one of the reasons Hitler ordered that Roehm be shot once Roehm's usefulness was at an end.

Machtan is in a very small minority where it comes to historians' opinions concerning Hitler. To the best of my knowledge, no other reputable historian has agreed with Machtan's carefully orchestrated conclusions.

A few small details that might interest you:

Himmler had an extensive dossier on Hitler. And from 1943 on, Himmler was debating how best to remove Hitler and save the Reich (and assume control himself). Had Hitler been gay, Hitler's inner circle would have had him killed immediately (and used his homosexuality in addition to his mismanagement of the war against the USSR as justification for their actions). If not Himmler, Bormann would have done it.

Had Hitler been gay why would he have bothered to marry his "window-dressing" just before he died?

Hitler had at least 3 girlfriends prior to Eva. Hitler was no more capable of keeping the details of those affairs secret than he was of keeping any alleged homosexuality a secret. Especially when he had plenty of sharks swimming around him looking for any chance to strike at him and thus rise in power themselves.

BTW, I've been studying history, in particular Nazi Germany, for about 35 years and I'm still considering doing my Master's thesis on this subject.