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Old May 7th, 2005, 03:56 PM
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

So...

Anyone like the Wraith Crown or Robe of Shadows for a Earth based SC? Or a Amulet of Resilience instead of a ring of /resistance/? (if you know fatigue will be an issue).
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

I'm fond of using Wraith Crowns at certain points in the game - against many troops, even summoned ones, it gives twice the benefit of luck (3/4 attacks negated vice 1/2). In addition, the initial mini-swarm of undead tends to slow down flyers (aquatic and terrestial) long enough for some buffs to be successfully cast.

I've used the robe of shadows less often, because there's usually a better suit of armor for most combat chassis's; however I have used it a few times on commanders with high innate PD and water magic - since they can self-haste, they don't need the jade armor.
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

Hmmm...

So how about:

Bloodthorn
Lucky Coin
Wraithcrown
rainbow armor
boots of flying
amulet of MR
ring of regeneration

I was debating the ring vs. the amulet of the werewolf because of it's regenerative & berserk properties...are there reasons not to use that amulet?
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Depends on what you are facing and what sc/thug you are sticking it on, but in general its decent. The only thing that you have no quickness... boots or jade armor.
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So replace the boots with boots of quickness and change the armor to jade armor?
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

The werewolf amulet can turn living? units into skinshifters.

I gave one to a werewolve, who became a skin shifter, who could shift into a werewolve.
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

The amulet of the wolf has a small chance of transforming your super combatant into a werewolf. That's bad. Not because it gets big and hairy, bu because it gets so small and hairy.

As for this set-up:
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Bloodthorn
Lucky Coin
Wraithcrown
rainbow armor
boots of flying
amulet of MR
ring of regeneration
I think that's a bit counter-synnergystic, although it does have some nice properties (decent MR, for instance).

Immediately obvious problems are:
No elemental resistances.
Very Crappy Protection.
No Haste Effects.

Those are big deals. It's got a lot of things covered, the small amount of reinvig on the rainbow armor really cuts down on the amount of death you can expect from Elf Shot, for instance. But the boots of flight don't benefit much from the low-encumberance armor you invested in, because you would be running around at full speed anyhow.

But if you have access to level 6 construction (which in your example, it seems you do, try some of these:

Bloodthorn
Shield of the Accursed
Starshine Skullcap
Chainmail of Displacement
Boots of Quickness
Bracers of Defense
Ring of Regeneration
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Look at that Defense! You've got a +12 Defense Mod and a +22 Protection before we even get to the Haste and natural protection (which you also have).

Bloodthorn
Crystal Shield
Flame Helm
Elemental Armor
Boots of Flight
Heart of Life
Ring of Regeneration

A nice protection value, it adds in 28 proection while still managing to ge in Regeneration, Reinvigoration, and the all-important Lightning and Cold Resistance (which will otherwise bypass your mighty armor without issue). Low MR, but a very high potential for magic adding on a spell-using combatant. If your Cyclops is willing to wear this get-up, expect to see a protection value in the mid-forties (which in turn will bounce Giant blows).

Or:
Faithful
Lead Shield
Starshine Skullcap
Hydra Skin Armor
Boots of Quickness
Heart of Life
Amulet of Antimagic

A massive MR value (+10!) and some good Reinvig. That and the quickness makes this a very good outfit for a rear-caster summoner. A Ghost King dressed up like this is dressed to kill.

Or:
Bloodthorn
Charcoal Shield
Starshine Skullcap
Rhyme Hauberk
Boots of Flight
Ring of Tamed Lightning
Ring of Regeneration

This is all about fighting big groups, resistance or immunity to all four elements, a chill aura and a fire shield make this a build to get-in and then hack a large army to pieces without death. Put this in and wait for the enemy army to die. They are going to do that.

Hellsword
Starshine Skullcap
Copper Plate
Boots of Flight
Ring of Regeneration
Lifelong Prtoection

A simple all-around set-up for an undead hero such as a Bane Lord. Resistance or Immunity to every element, flight, regen, berserking, a pile of imps every battle, it's good. You fly around the hinterland stabbing things in the face.

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En Forcer - you want either jade armor or boots of quickness, but not both (doesn't stack, iirc).

Frank - thanks for the cool item configs! Some stuff I hadn't considered. However, Hydra Skin Armor wouldn't be that useful on Ghost King, would it? Or does gk not have lifeless tag? Or is it no regen for undead? I always have to look it up...
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Default Re: Hell sword vs Wraith sword vs Blood thorn

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En Forcer - you want either jade armor or boots of quickness, but not both (doesn't stack, iirc).

Frank - thanks for the cool item configs! Some stuff I hadn't considered. However, Hydra Skin Armor wouldn't be that useful on Ghost King, would it? Or does gk not have lifeless tag? Or is it no regen for undead? I always have to look it up...
Regen works for the ghost king, as he is not lifeless.
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