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September 5th, 2005, 12:42 AM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
Yes, and the Vickers has a higher accuracy and it also has a longer range so although the end result is a "5" HEK for both guns they do not have the exact same effect in the game. It's just one number they have in common. All the numbers work together it's not all just about one of them
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September 5th, 2005, 01:09 AM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
I know, just bringing up something that seemed Like it could have been a mistake.
EDIT: Heared back from about the Armour, It's still restricted.  I'd guess if we treated it like the stuff from the CR1 it wouldn't be too far out.
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September 5th, 2005, 01:54 PM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
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EDIT: Heared back from about the Armour, It's still restricted. I'd guess if we treated it like the stuff from the CR1 it wouldn't be too far out.
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We are treating is as if it were Chobham front and side and the upgrade numbers are similar to the numbers that upgraded the Chally 1 to a +. We debated the ERA idea and looked at the photos and kept coming back to Chobham although there is a very real possiblity ERA *may* have been tried in tests at some point we just don't know and as you say it's restricted infomation ( I wouldn't tell anyone what my tank could do or couldn't do either that's why many of these "debates" about armour and armour penetration are conjecture on everyones part, usually tainted by nationalism.). The blocks on the front are similar to ERA blocks but also different . It may be they were designed to be put in place when in an "active enviroment" with simple tools so they are blocks that slide together. There is also the possiblity they were made this way to look like ERA to fool people ( easily done )or a third possiblity is they are Chobham than could be replaced by ERA if required and that's why they are the same size and shape as ERA
The tank will be in the patch with a CS version as well and a new Icon for European and Desert conditions with our best guess as to how the armour package works in the "real". world.
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September 7th, 2005, 01:02 AM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
Got it!
http://www.nao.org.uk/publications/n...-04/030460.pdf
Page 19, on that PDF.
Page 25 has some stuff on Infantry mods.
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Enhanced armour protection
In October 2002, the Department approved a separate Urgent
Operational Requirement to fit a new generation of appliqué to 137 Challenger 2 tanks, of which 116 vehicles were
deployed to theatre. The total cost of this package was £8.8 million.
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So looks like the EAP is better than the stuff on CR1..
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September 7th, 2005, 10:12 AM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
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Got it!
So looks like the EAP is better than the stuff on CR1..
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So they say.... ( I would.... wouldn't you?) I suppose Chobham has been improved in the last 14 years.
However, those side hull packs sure do look like the old ones .
I'll take this all into consideration
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September 7th, 2005, 06:02 PM
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Re: Andy: another possible inclusion into the UK O
Hmm - "landies" was what we called land rovers, not "lannies"  !
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