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March 26th, 2006, 04:31 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
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> "here you got this AI, live with it."
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!! You cant be serious Kristofer. I hope that you are just kidding, I mean what is the point in NOT fixing an AI? 
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March 26th, 2006, 04:39 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
The fact that they did continual fixings on the MP part of an MP game? And as far as I know, most people who have dominions are playing mp games even if its just friends nad family with no need for public scoreboards. You sem to feel you are the voice of the silent majority but I dont know if anyone is agreing with that.
I thought that the AI thing in dom2 was answered long ago. Its linear so there isnt much fix that can be done without a massive rewrite. And I asked continually for players to develop a better linear layout for the ai that didnt amount to teaching it how to play just one nation better.
MY request was for a map command that would allow map scenarios to add castles that were freebie giveaways. A #patrol or a #defence 21 type of command. Im still hoping for that
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March 26th, 2006, 04:49 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
And well, a two man team must focus on certain things. I'm not sure if the expansion of Illwinter is what the two want, or if it is economicaly feasible.
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March 26th, 2006, 05:11 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
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And well, a two man team must focus on certain things. I'm not sure if the expansion of Illwinter is what the two want, or if it is economicaly feasible.
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Actually, it's listed as four now. Johan K. and Kristoffer O., with help from Johan O. and Daniel Serra. Surprised me, too.
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March 27th, 2006, 12:57 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
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Actually, it's listed as four now. Johan K. and Kristoffer O., with help from Johan O. and Daniel Serra. Surprised me, too.
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Daniel is mostly in as the company form 'ekonomisk förening' requires at least 3 members. He does some economic stuff and is the main contact with Erik and Anna of Falsobordone and Dråm.
My brother comes up with ideas and speaks some in the fora, but he doesn't work on the game per se. He is also the devils advocate  (when JK is silent).
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March 26th, 2006, 05:30 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
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The fact that they did continual fixings on the MP part of an MP game?
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Well the feature list was fake then. It clearly stated "very good AI". Not to mention that they forgot to mention "We wont care about the singleplayer part after the release."
Just tell me Gandalf that I am not correct.
Anyways this is the past, the future can be better, lets hope...Dominions 3 can be different in support.
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March 26th, 2006, 05:46 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
You are of course perfectly correct. No one can tell you that you are not correct. Since you are stating an opinion, about an opinion, then it must be true for you.
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March 26th, 2006, 06:06 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
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You are of course perfectly correct. No one can tell you that you are not correct. Since you are stating an opinion, about an opinion, then it must be true for you.
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You admitted [or someone else?] that the singleplayer was only good to "taste" the game and play multi. It is clear that the AI was weak, I think everyone can admit it.
I mean we mainly seen some weak AI troops, running all over the map without a point really, not to mention the other AI weaknesses. We cannot call this "very good AI", what was stated on the feature list originally. Now we got this "even more challenging AI" description for Doms 3, after the Doms 2. AI failed.
I think we can say more after a demo like I said, the question is....Illwinter will forget developing/fixing the singleplayer part if it is needed or not. This would be good to know also.
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March 26th, 2006, 06:24 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
Maybe this 'even more challenging AI' can build castles now so you should see much more national troops running around (without goal???).
I think you are greatly overstating your case here. AI is not nearly as bad as you claim.
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March 26th, 2006, 06:59 PM
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Re: So...the customers wont be cheated this time?
You still seem determined to put your "fact" words on other peoples opinions. I think that any game with an AI that can get you up to human-player level is an above average AI.
Did you ever find out who's opinion it was that you were quoting in the first place about the AI?
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