MA Shinuyama-MP-boost the Kappas

Xietor · #1 July 7th, 2007, 11:21 AM

Agree.

But is there really any downside to giving the Kappa a turtle shield? Even with a shield, MA Shinuyama is not going to jump into the upper pack of MA MP nations. What it will do is give them a viable(though expensive) infantry unit.

Their mages are nice, but at 300 gold expensive. And they start extremely old, demanding 3 growth scale. Though at least they are sacred, so they are not bad to maintain.

Shovah32 · #2 July 7th, 2007, 11:43 AM

The downside is that it will move the Kappas, currently a niche unit, into the realm of general infantry unit(high gold cost but 2 attacks, high prot and a shield with low resource cost to boot).

Xietor · #3 July 7th, 2007, 12:26 PM

MA Shin has no infantry, has no mounted units, has no sacred units. Giving them a high cost infantry unit, with a mr of 8!!!, helps in part to restore the vague idea that is named "balance."

And, if their fatigue is left as is, adding the shield helps, but still leaves them as an overpriced, but very vulnerable infantry unit.

I do see the argument for leaving the Kappa as a niche unit. And I am not saying anything anyone said is "wrong."
But I am of the firm belief the race could use an upward tweak, and that was my suggestion.

I would raise their resource cost some, if a shield is added, but not a ton. Perhaps to 10.

Morkilus · #4 July 7th, 2007, 12:59 PM

If you've been around here for a while, you'll know that unless there was a mistake or a general outcry (which could have been the case for the Glamor change) these sort of changes never happen. Your best option if you feel that Shinu are weak is to make the appeal in the CB mod thread.

I'm just kinda shocked that you think the Kappa are weak; I was very impressed by them when I discovered the indie poptype and used them heavily to take several water provinces.

Kristoffer O · #5 July 7th, 2007, 01:38 PM

Kappa will not get shields. Mainly for thematic reasons. They could get a cucumber however

Foodstamp · #6 July 7th, 2007, 01:52 PM

You could give the Kappa a second attack where they suck the organs out of an enemy through their anus. Maybe a drain life ability

Kristoffer O · #7 July 7th, 2007, 02:10 PM

quantum_mechani · #8 July 7th, 2007, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Kristoffer O said:
They could get a cucumber however

I, for one, would love a national hero based on this.

Lazy_Perfectionist · #9 July 7th, 2007, 08:49 PM

That's an awesome story, to bad its so short.
Personally, I'd love to see LA Ulm get vampiric squash. What!? It's legend too. Either Balkan or an urban legend about balkan myths. I'm doing a little digging, trying to find a non-wikipedia source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vampire_watermelon