NAP Breach?

Xietor · #1 March 25th, 2008, 03:20 PM

As someone who will be an attorney one day K, my advice is to pay attention and abide by the language of the contract. The precise words of a contract usually trump the elusive "spirit" of the agreement.

When a lawyer shows up in court trying to rely on the "spirit" of the contract, rather than the plain words written on paper, you know he is in trouble. Unless the lawyer goes fishing with the Judge on weekends.

thejeff · #2 March 25th, 2008, 03:23 PM

On the other hand, if you start relying too heavily on the letter of the law in disputes about a friendly game, without even money on the table, other players aren't going to be happy with you.

quantum_mechani · #3 March 25th, 2008, 03:30 PM

I have to say, I would not consider taking such an indy province to nullify a NAP, though anyone who does so should not be surprised if the ill-will spells trouble for them down the road.

Evil Dave · #4 March 25th, 2008, 03:39 PM

It's probably a breach of the spirit. I agree w/ the other posters that the matter should have be clarified in advance. B probably should have asked before taking the province, and A should ask for it back before declaring war.

And if B refuses, but happens to find his capital always at >100 unrest due to strange events (hurricanes, blights, etc), well, these things just happen.

thejeff · #5 March 25th, 2008, 04:23 PM

These things do happen. They just happen to happen more often to those who cross me.

Twan · #6 March 25th, 2008, 04:47 PM

If there is an indie province near me it belongs to me not the false god who lost it, NAP or not.

Or he should give me back the gems I spent on ghost riders !

Peacekeeper · #7 March 25th, 2008, 04:51 PM

is it relevant?

its a 3 turn NAP, after 2 turns you decide to take the provice(so on turn 3?)

NAP has expired at that point anyway.

sector24 · #8 March 25th, 2008, 05:16 PM

If player B can take the neutral province and it is financially advantageous to do so, he should. If he's nice, he'll collect income for a turn or two but won't build PD. Player A can take it back whenever he wants.

If player B is slightly less nice, he'll crank up the tax rate to 200% while waiting for player A to take it back.

If he decides to keep it, he shouldn't be surprised if player A considers it a hostile act. I think Shakespeare said it best:

"Do you bite your thumb at us, sir?"

"No, sir, I do not bite my thumb at you, sir; but I bite my thumb, sir."

Aezeal · #9 March 25th, 2008, 05:31 PM

If there is a neutral flag it's not a hostile action.

Baalz · #10 March 25th, 2008, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Xietor said:
As someone who will be an attorney one day K, my advice is to pay attention and abide by the language of the contract. The precise words of a contract usually trump the elusive "spirit" of the agreement.

Spoken like a true lawyer Xietor.

I'm not a lawyer and my NAPs are simple: if you attack me you breached it. "Attack" is an ambiguous term that I reserve the sole right to interpret in light of the particular circumstances - as I expect you to do on your side. Thus is the joy of being a sovereign power.