dominion spread

[MaxWilson]

Yeah, if a capital has a temple it generates two checks per round. Even without a temple it generates one. You had a temple, a pretender, and a prophet parked next door, which adds up to something like three and a half temple checks.

-Max

[Agrajag]

I'm pretty sure dominion spread spreads in a random direction, so if you park temples and prophets and whatnot in a province next to an enemy castle, there's only a small chance the spread will even go to that castle (because your province also has many other neighbours to spread the dominion to).
Maybe if you surrounded their castle with temples in all surrounding provinces...

[Micah]

It mostly just boils down to dom-kill not being a very good way to take out an opposing nation in most cases. The couple of times I've actually managed to use it as a good tactic were one time with preaching (Against Mictlan, meaning he had incredibly low dom-spread and no ability to preach or spread dominion without a temple) and a massive blood-sacrifice campaign with LA Marignon and their H3 priests against a newish player that didn't notice what I was up to, but was playing LE Ermor and just had too many troops to deal with.

[Coldshard]

MaxWilson said:
Yeah, if a capital has a temple it generates two checks per round. Even without a temple it generates one. You had a temple, a pretender, and a prophet parked next door, which adds up to something like three and a half temple checks.

-Max

The juggernaut spell claims that they each spread dominion like a prophet...

I'm not sure when the dominion checks are made (as in before or after summoning) but I was looking at something like this:

Round 1: 1 automatic, 4 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 2: 1 automatic, 5 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 3: 1 automatic, 6 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 4: 1 automatic, 7 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 5: 1 automatic, 8 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 6: 1 automatic, 9 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 7: 1 automatic, 10 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 8: 1 automatic, 11 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 9: 1 automatic, 12 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B
Round 10: 1 automatic, 13 temple checks for side A, 0 checks for side B

and so on until round 20 when side B's dominion in the province finally dropped by 1 point.

This seems.. unreasonable.. to me.

[MaxWilson]

Hmm, that does seem unreasonable. How high was your dominion? I.e. what was the temple check %?

[Saulot]

Did you have the same dominion level as your opponent for that last test as well?

[Coldshard]

MaxWilson said:
Hmm, that does seem unreasonable. How high was your dominion? I.e. what was the temple check %?

Both sides had a 7 dominion scale to start with and side A had 7 temples. Side B had a single temple that was not in the province of interest.

Even with fairly high dominions that is a lot of checks.. not to mention the checks for the other temples that side A had nor their home province check.

[Karlem]

To kill someone with dominion you have to use stealth preachers/god/prophets/heretics othwerwise it is quite difficult even with higher dominion because of the way the temple checks spread.

[kasnavada]

Sadly stealth units have easy counters, which makes it difficult to use them properly if your opponent finds out what you're doing. Using temple checks is much safer but not much effective unless you use blood sacrifices (since temple check can increase dominion in another province but simple preaching won't).