Suggestion for new Oceana units

[Xietor]

Many good ideas, but it is laughable that Oceania should get crocs, when MA Ctis does not even have Gators in its swamps.

Swamps are loaded with gators, Oceans are not inudated with crocs.

I see no reason that Oceania has to lose magic when their mages leave the water. Maybe gain air, and lose water. But they really cannot afford to have their mages just get weaker.

One thing Baalz did not do in Kingmaker, to my knowledge, is take a bless with his sacred troops. Maybe the knights can be tweaked to make them a better bless troop.

That may be the easiest fix of all. make the sacreds a bit better, and have their mages gain air, and lose water, rather than just lose magic on land.

[Itchykobu]

Hi, new to game so I haven't played Oceania yet....but do they have any good siege units? First thing this topic made me think of was big narwhal-like beasts that would employ their drill-like horns to get a siege bonus.

[Cor2]

oooh a narwhale I like those... good idea

[Endoperez]

Narwhal that become unicorns when they land?


The horns don't work like drills, though. They're more like lances or something.

[HoneyBadger]

Jellyfish would be great-This reminds me of Man-O-Wars. Those things are just terrifying, even if they aren't really jellyfish.

And how about manta rays? They did for poor Steve Irwin, afterall. There's a vampiric version of them in D&D too, but the name is more or less unpronounceable, so maybe they could come in regular and undead varieties. Maybe they could be ocean flyers?

I've been wanting to mod in a nation that used undead Aboleths, huge size 6 trampling sea urchins, and giant immobile cone snail that shoot a poisoned harpoon at it's enemies, functioning like an underwater ballista, but so far haven't had the chance. Maybe if I can find my notes, I'll do a write up for it, like Partha. It's basically an underwater MA Aboleth nation that's based on the Mamluk Egyptian (pre 7th cruisade, 1249 ad.) Sultanate.

[Wrana]

To HoneyBadger:
Surely bring it out! Sea urchins and snails particularly. And jellyfish should be present, certainly. English name slipped me earlier, but they and coralls should make a long way toward making Oceania feared! Also, while jellyfish would probably remain aquatic only, coralls can be amphibious... Hey, there IS a possibility of making something like the said Man-o-War which is floating in the air, baloon-like. It can be filled with something like hydrogene or methane and so explode when dying.
Manta Rays I think not particularly impressive (they surely ARE, from cosmetic point of view, but that's it). Except this could allow to include electrical one... however, there are other electricity-producing fishes.
" Xietor: Swamps are loaded with gators, Oceans are not inudated with crocs."
While I agree that for C'tis, etc. not having gators is a glaring oversight there ARE at least couple of species of ocean-going crocs. The Indian gavial (iir spelling c) isn't very impressive with its dolphin-style beak, but Pacific one is the biggest croc on Earth, reaching up to 10 meters!
To Baalz: Orcas having bad time against armored troops?! You are joking! These guys have up to 6-10 meters length iirc and VERY impressive teeth! Raiding they would perform admirably, too, though. Maybe spermacete whale of Moby Dick kind could be added if you want something STILL more impressive. I don't remember whether it's possible to include supersonic attack for him, but what the hell...

[Reverend Zombie]

Wrana said:

While I agree that for C'tis, etc. not having gators is a glaring oversight there ARE at least couple of species of ocean-going crocs. The Indian gavial (iir spelling c) isn't very impressive with its dolphin-style beak, but Pacific one is the biggest croc on Earth, reaching up to 10 meters!

C'tis should have crocs, not gators.