Exploit question

[Sombre]

Originally Posted by Foodstamp

You guys should be ashamed for trying to gang up on a forum member because of what ultimately boils down to a difference of opinion.

Yeah except that isn't what's happening. Not much use apologising for trolling then continuing to do so in the same post :P

Baalz: 'If it's possible to do in the game it's part of the game' seems a pointless truism to me. Obviously the 'exploit' in question is part of the game. Is anyone arguing it isn't? You do the entire thing from within the game, without breaking anything.

The question is whether people want it in the game - when they don't and they regard its use as spoiling their enjoyment, they'll react badly to it being used. Maybe they're irrational, but it doesn't matter. It seems to me the reason people don't want the Bogus copy orders 'exploit' in the game is that it /feels/ like a metagaming exploit or unfixed bug. Certainly the fact that if you change Bogus crews orders they lose the special orders forever and if you want to copy them you can only do so through a couple of keyboard shortcuts makes the whole thing feel buggy.

Imagine if you could somehow script a 6th spell on units with a secondary form by getting them killed into their second form then the next turn copying their orders over to an identical unit that was still in the first form, or something like that. I'm certain people would have the same reaction. It may be a pain in the *** to do and only help a marginal amount and be hard to even notice when people are using it but it would still feel like an exploit to a lot of people.

[Gandalf Parker]

Let me agree with some very respectable people, but from a totally new direction.
I dont care who meant or didnt mean it to be in. If I can RPG it, then its part of the game.

Bogus and company is an important part of Illwinter history. Its based on the devs original DnD adventuring party. Bogus was also the companys name before they changed it to Illwinter. So I have no problem that its a soft spot in the devs heart. They changed the scripting option in all units but those. Maybe it just didnt feel right to nerf Bogus.

So..
if I can manage to capture the legendary Illwinter adventuring groups member named Bogus, then I gain the ability to have him teach a new combat skill to my commanders. There. Its part of the game. (well my games anyway altho I would of course abide by an individual game creators rules)

Its probably not hugely more beneficial than other random events in the game.