Vehicle Size- Does size matter?

gila · #1 November 27th, 2011, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Suhiir

There are of course exceptions, some based on OOB designer interpretation others on "common sense". Example : A medium truck with a canvas cover on the bed has a huge cross section ... but shooting holes in the canvas isn't going to bother the vehicle a bit so it's "size" may (and should) be less then it's height x length x width would indicate.

The size of the truck should not be less because it has canvas. This makes it easier to spot/track and engage. You would engage the target until disabled or destroyed. If your just putting holes in the canvas than your probably using the wrong ammo to begin with.

I'd have to agree,the size of truck should should be relevant to the actual profile of the vehichle downrange,regardless if most may be canvas,and usually it's transporting men or equipment!

EOT · #2 November 27th, 2011, 11:30 PM

(SP2) Size Definition: The Measure of the unit's weight and bulk.
(SP3) Size Definition: The Measure of the unit's silhouette size.
Large units are easier to spot and hit.

(SP2 and SP3)
Infantry squads 1
Attack helicopters 2
Main Battle Tanks 5
No object is larger than 12

If we go with the (SP3) definition of silhouette than we can use the front/side profile.

Front Silhouette = Width X Height
Side Silhouette = Length X Height

If we add the two totals and divide them we can arrive at an average silhouette size.

Examples

Bradley IFV Game Size=(4)
Front Profile (11.81ft X 9.78ft)=115.51
Side Profile (21.49ft X 9.78ft)=210.17
Average Silhouette 162.84

M1 MBT (5)
Front Profile (12ft X 8ft)=96
Side Profile (26.02ft X 8ft)=208.16
Average Silhouette 152.08

Lav3 IFV (5)
Front Profile 81.88
Side Profile 210.68
Average Profile 146.28

Lav-25 (4)
Front Profile 68.96
Side Profile 176.36
Average Silhouette 122.66

Stryker (4)
Front Profile 71.37
Side Profile 163.54
Average Silhouette 132.92

M113 (3)
Front Profile 72.24
Side Profile 130.71
Average Silhouette 101.48

T-72 MBT (4)
Front Profile 88.06
Side Profile 163.54
Average Silhouette 125.8

M109-A5 (6)
Front Profile 112.32
Side Profile 220.32
Average Profile 166.32

M109-A6 (6)
Front Profile 115.56
Side Profile 241.92
Average 178.74

Leopard 2 MBT (5)
Front Profile 98.7
Side Profile 205.93
Average Silhouette 152.32

Challenger 1 MBT (5)
Front Profile 94.14
Side Profile 223.86
Average Silhouette 159

Leopard 1 MBT (5)
Front Profile 94.67
Side Profile 199.11
Average Silhouette 146.89

Warrior IFV (4)
Front Profile 83.81
Side Profile 191.36
Average Silhouette 137.59

AAV7A1 Amphibious APC (6)
Front Profile 119.46
Side Profile 291.37
Average Silhouette 205.41

BMP-2 (3)
Front Profile 83.05
Side Profile 177.28
Average Silhouette 130.17

Humvee (2)
Front Profile 42.48
Side Profile 90
Average Silhouette 66.24

Cougar AVGP (5)
Front Profile 70.52
Side Profile 166.75
Average Silhouette 118.64

Spotlights
Size 2 Humvee Silhouette size 66.24
Size 3 M113 101.71
Size 4 Lav-25 122.66 T-72 125.8
Size 5 Lav-3 146.28
Size 6 AAV7A1 205.41

In keeping with (SP2) Tradition we should gauge the size of vehicles based on the MBT size of 5 as a reference point. We can decide on what the cut-offs are for size 2,3,4,5 and 6.

Cut-off Points
Size 2 (50-79)
Size 3 (80-109)
Size 4 (110-139)
Size 5 (140-169)
Size 6 (170+)

If we go by these cut-off points than the vehicle sizes are very close to what we have now in SPMBT OOB's. I think the vehicles that are off on the sizes are either typos and only a few would need to to adjusted per country. The sizes are actually more accurate than I first perceived.